Nice clothes look best on tall, slim/lean people...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Bexcellence, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. Bexcellence

    Bexcellence Senior member

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    I guess thats why the models that wear the clothes look that way, right?

    Slim suits look best on...slim people. If you're big and have a suit that fits nice/nicely tailored, it just doesnt look as good.
     


  2. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, style and fit are better expressed on a tall, slim build but these are the most boring types to make clothes for and they look like mannequins.

    I look at clothes differently and some of the best cut and fitting clothes have been on out of shape, irregularly shaped men because it takes some ingenuity, talent and execution. Best fitting trouser I remember seeing was a guy with at least a 44" waist and he was pear shaped but the trouser was cut perfectly.
     


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    A proper tailor should be able to hide one's physical defects.

    Hence, a small, heavy man can be made to look as "good" (whatever that is supposed to mean anyway) as a tall, slim man. Besides, being tall and slim is not necessarily advantageous.

    So I would disagree. Cartoonishly slim suits make a slim person look worse just as they would do to a fat person.
     


  4. Geezer

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    No they can't; not exactly. They can't hide the truth. What they can do is present it well.

    I'm tall and slim, and no tailor has ever tried to make me look tall and muscular.

    What a good tailor can do is minimise the negative aspects of your build - whether building up a sloping shoulder to look similar to the other straighter one, advise a shorter client to wear uncufffed trousers to reduce the sense that his legs are short, and so on.

    Good choice of clothes and a good tailor's work can help you look as good as you can. But, in Scotty's words "you canna change the laws of physics". So if you are Nicolas Sarkozy and you stand next to me, you look short. And if I stand next to a super-heavyweight boxer, I look puny, whatever we are wearing.
     
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    does it mean rubi fails with foo or is it the other way round?
     


  6. Buddenbrook

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    That is what I was trying to convey.

    Tailored clothing can make a man look either rakish or ridiculous, as well as shorter or taller, fatter or thinner. It is necessary for the tailor to choose models, fabrics and patterns that flatter one's shape while minimising one's defects.
     


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    Geezer Senior member

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    The tailor proposes, but the client disposes.
     


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    fritzl Senior member

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    i see.
     


  9. Geezer

    Geezer Senior member

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    We risk conflating two things here, including me in my original comment.


    What good tailoring can do is reduce obvious deviations from the ideal. One arm longer than the other, so one sleeve longer. Unequal shoulders, unequal padding. This is why tailors have those funny little codes that only they understand.

    What it can not do is change the basics of height and build. The mistake that skinny and heavy men make in equal measure is to wear bigger clothes, one to look bigger, one to hide their weight. It doesn't work. One looks like a kid in dad's clothes, the other like a pig in a tent. Same goes for "skinny" stuff on skinny people. Wear stuff that fits.

    Right, Olympics now. Bye for a bit.
     
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    I look like a mannequin....
     


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    checking in for tall, lean people :slayer:
     


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    6'2'' and athletic checking in. A slim and propper cut suit is def. what looks best on me.

    But I can see from a tailors point of view that having a very irregular body shape, would bring challenge to the tailor.
    I watched "Other peoples money" the other day, with Danny DeVito staring as an 80s corporate raider. He had new suits every 10 mins or so...and they all looked pretty damn good on him. And he's pretty much the definition of short and stocky build.
     


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    Will do my best to work this phrase into conversation in the next week.
     


  15. donnawhite

    donnawhite New Member

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    "A proper tailor should be able to hide one's physical defects."
    It is hard to find the proper tailor which work like this.
    And also one can't do it 100%.
     


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