NFL 2016-17 Thread

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  1. Texasmade

    Texasmade Senior member

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    +1

    Hopefully GM's don't shy away from him because of the distraction this will cause in the locker room. I'm also glad that it was a pretty good player coming out and not a borderline draft pick/ undrafted free agent type.
     


  2. lawyerdad

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    From what I've read he was considered definite draft material but likely not a first or second round pick. Undersized for a pro defensive lineman, and reportedly did not perform well trying to showcase as a linebacker in Pro Day workouts.
     


  3. archibaldleach

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    I've read similar things. I wonder how much of him not performing well was due to linebacker being new to him. Give him months or practice, training camp, preseason, etc. and there could be some solid untapped potential there. Should be interesting to see where he gets drafted; seems to be the sort of guy someone like Belichick might take a chance on.
     


  4. lawyerdad

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    I'm sure that's some of it. But the folks who attend Pro Day know it's new to him. I imagine that the comments reflect relative judgments, not just absolute ones. It's not uncommon for guys to work out at unfamiliar positions for which they might be better suited at the pro level (linemen>linebackers, tight ends>fullbacks, corners>safeties, etc.) Some perform well enough to persuade that they can quickly become solid contributors at the new position. Others, less so.

    Which is not to say that he can't learn and develop, of course. I hope he does. But I don't think it's as simple as saying "give him time to develop". I'm pretty sure the upshot of his Pro Day performance (taking the limited comments I read as the consensus) is that his performance made people (people who are skilled and experienced at making these sorts of judgments) less confident, rather than more confident, that he can successfully make the transition and and become a solid NFL linebacker.
     


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    I think It will be interesting to see his pro day - i think the comments were more about the Senior Bowl.

    Size wise, he would project as a 3-4 OLB. I think he could also play as a specialist in a 4-3 as a russell Maryland type - guy who is undersized, but who comes in to give great interior pass rush.

    I think he'll be ok in a good situation, but I'm guessing round 3 or later.
     


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    ^ Yeah, 3rd or 4th round sounds about right to me. Kid is a solid player at the college level that may need some work fitting into an NFL scheme. From what I've seen, however, I think he has a good work ethic and ultimately that makes a big difference in deciding which 3rd or 4th round picks become great contributors in the NFL. May end up being a patience is a virtue thing.
     


  7. Ambulance Chaser

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    A bit undersized (short) for OLB as well. I think 3rd or 4th round is a stretch for somebody who is not an every-down player.
     


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    More proof that I'm a bad person, but this tweet made me chuckle:

    TMZ posts video of Ray Rice dragging his unconscious fiancee a few feet out of the elevator.
    "Hell of a carry." -Trent Richardson
     


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    Rice carried her three yards before falling down.
     


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    And he fumbled!
     


  11. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    he is making news in classic baltimore raven fashion.
     


  12. ethanm

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    I can't believe this hasn't jumped out of the sports world yet.
     


  13. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    its all over the news here.
     


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    New avatar: :happy:
     


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    perhaps. lol.
     


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