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Nexus One

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tokyo Slim, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. needler

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    So... anybody got a N1 on AT&T? Is it true you get the exact same plan as you would with an iphone, even if you buy the N1 at full price? At least T-mo gives you a break on their plan if you're willing to drop 500 bucks for the damned phone yourself.
     
  2. Tokyo Slim

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    So... anybody got a N1 on AT&T? Is it true you get the exact same plan as you would with an iphone, even if you buy the N1 at full price? At least T-mo gives you a break on their plan if you're willing to drop 500 bucks for the damned phone yourself.

    I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell them what phone you are using.
     
  3. Jumbie

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    I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell them what phone you are using.

    I think his point is that carriers claim that contracts are to subsidize the cost of the phones which they give to you for less money. Since you're buying the N1 at full price, AT&T should offer you a cheaper rate.

    The N1 on T-Mobile is available for a subsidized, cheaper price on contract.

    I don't really see the point of a having a phone off of contract if you know you'll be sticking with the carrier though. It's not like you can take the T-Mo N1 and use it on AT&T or vice versa.
     
  4. Tokyo Slim

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    I think his point is that carriers claim that contracts are to subsidize the cost of the phones which they give to you for less money. Since you're buying the N1 at full price, AT&T should offer you a cheaper rate.
    Edit: I just checked and the iPhone plan is one of the cheapest ones they offer. It's like $60 a month. I thought the iPhone plan was supposed to be expensive? My 450min/unlim/unlim plan is like $80 ($100 something incl taxes and fees) I pay extra to avoid the iPhone and I guess I'll continue to do so.
    I don't really see the point of a having a phone off of contract if you know you'll be sticking with the carrier though. It's not like you can take the T-Mo N1 and use it on AT&T or vice versa.
    Well, technically, you can. But the 3G won't work.
     
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    Well, technically, you can. But the 3G won't work.

    I'm aware. But what's the point of having a crippled phone limited to Edge/whatever?
     
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    I'm aware. But what's the point of having a crippled phone limited to Edge/whatever?
    What was the point of buying an iPhone that didn't have 3g capability to begin with? Millions of people did that. I dunno. You are asking stupid questions now. I just pointed out that you could indeed do what you said you couldn't.
     
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    What are opinions on waiting for Sprint to unroll ( they say in late June ) their HTC EVO?

    The HTC EVO is basically the same phone that T-mobile is selling as the HTC HD2 with a few differences.

    The very important difference between an EVO and the T-mobile HTC HD2 is that the EVO will be an Android OS phone versus Windows Mobile 6.5 OS with the T-mobile HTC HD2. Otherwise they are basically the same phone.

    Other differences are that the EVO will be on the new Sprint 4G WIMAX system versus the HTC HD2 on T-mobiles 3G network.

    And minor differences like an 8 megapixel camera versus a 5 a few other little things. In theory the EVO sounds wonderful.

    I've currently have a G1 on T-mobile and it's grown old on me. It's OK but barely OK. My contract ends this month.

    Sprint has not officially announced the subsidized price of the EVO either. And I'm not excited about a CDMA phone.

    I think I'm going to pass on the Nexus 1 because of the Google sales model and the initial complaint reports.

    So, I can wait for June and switch to the HTC EVO with a new carrier and network. I can just stick with the G1 for a while more and see what T-mobile comes up with as their next and best Android phone. I'm pretty sure I'm going to hold off on the Nexus because of issues and the Google direct sale and hold off from the HTC HD2 because of Windows Mobile 6.5.

    Has anyone had experience with Sprint as a cell phone carrier and what would you do in my situation about a new handset?
     
  8. needler

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    I think his point is that carriers claim that contracts are to subsidize the cost of the phones which they give to you for less money. Since you're buying the N1 at full price, AT&T should offer you a cheaper rate. The N1 on T-Mobile is available for a subsidized, cheaper price on contract. I don't really see the point of a having a phone off of contract if you know you'll be sticking with the carrier though. It's not like you can take the T-Mo N1 and use it on AT&T or vice versa.
    Exactly. The "portable Nexus" plan of Google would be perfect... if the phones were actually portable. No 3G makes a phone about as useful as a brick to me. This is an incredibly annoying time to be shopping for phones as there are really no reasonable Android carrier-subsidized phones but there will be a half dozen within 4 months. Even the iPhone is right at the end of its product life. And it makes no economic sense to buy an unsubsidized phone. I definitely can't wait until July for the EVO, especially since these dates are usually full of shit and frequently get pushed back. The Verizon Nexus was supposed to be out already. The Verizon HTC Incredible is allegedly arriving in less than 3 weeks. It's supposedly very comparable to the Nexus One with some minor improvements and a slightly uglier form. I am pinning my hopes on that at present, although with my luck Verizon will pull their usual shit and cripple the phone somehow.
     
  9. Jumbie

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    What was the point of buying an iPhone that didn't have 3g capability to begin with? Millions of people did that.

    I dunno. You are asking stupid questions now. I just pointed out that you could indeed do what you said you couldn't.


    If you have ever read my previous posts when discussing phones and carriers you will see that I am well aware that they will work just not with 3G or whatever faster data connections.

    People bought the iPhone cause they really wanted the iPhone and it wasn't available on T-Mobile. However, if you have the exact same phone on the different carriers I think it'd be pretty dumb to switch to another carrier and "suffer" through downgrading your connection and dealing with Edge speeds.
     
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    If you have ever read my previous posts when discussing phones and carriers you will see that I am well aware that they will work just not with 3G or whatever faster data connections.
    It's not like you can take the T-Mo N1 and use it on AT&T or vice versa.
    Uh huh. Say what you mean next time and we won't have this problem. [​IMG]
    That was a rhetorical question. Up until about a few weeks ago, if you wanted to use a Nexus One on AT&T, you had to "suffer" with 2G speeds. Same difference.
     
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    Well... the order is in. I decided to switch to T-Mobile and get the subsidized phone. The monthly plan will also probably work out to be cheaper I think, we'll see how it goes.

    Since I switched jobs, I don't think there's as big a risk of me smashing my phone. Otherwise, I'd be really concerned with the slimness and large glass front of the phone. I'll probably be getting some armor for it anyways.
     
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    I hope I don't hate the touchscreen keyboard as much as I do the iPhone's. I'm going to experiment with different apps for it. Besides Swype, is there anything else I should be looking at?
     
  13. Jumbie

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    Dunno. I've never actually used Android.

    Looking forward to hearing your feedback on it once you've played with it for a bit. Supposedly there're some issues with the 3G losing signal on T-Mobile. I don't believe it's the same for the N1 on AT&T.
     
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    Dunno. I've never actually used Android.

    Looking forward to hearing your feedback on it once you've played with it for a bit. Supposedly there're some issues with the 3G losing signal on T-Mobile. I don't believe it's the same for the N1 on AT&T.



    The reason I went with T-Mob is that the phone is literally a quarter of the price because it's subsidized. If I don't like the service, or the touchscreen thing sucks, in three months I can get out of my contract for a couple hundred bucks and still be out less than the cost of buying the AT&T version. I also know a lot of people on T-Mob who will probably buy the phone off me because it's probably still better than the MyTouch they are currently using. It just made sense. Seeing as I need a new phone NOW, waiting for the next great thing isn't going to be an option.
     
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    The reason I went with T-Mob is that the phone is literally a quarter of the price because it's subsidized. If I don't like the service, or the touchscreen thing sucks, in three months I can get out of my contract for a couple hundred bucks and still be out less than the cost of buying the AT&T version. I also know a lot of people on T-Mob who will probably buy the phone off me because it's probably still better than the MyTouch they are currently using. It just made sense. Seeing as I need a new phone NOW, waiting for the next great thing isn't going to be an option.

    I agree with your reasoning. I'd have done the same. Was just commenting on an issue I've seen mentioned since the release of the Nexus One cause I recently read that Google has given up trying to fix it meaning it's likely a hardware issue not a software one.
     
  16. Tokyo Slim

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    It's here.

    I hope it doesn't take 24 hours to port my number. Going all of tomorrow with a phone that is essentially just a clock would be a killer.
     
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    It's here.

    I hope it doesn't take 24 hours to port my number. Going all of tomorrow with a phone that is essentially just a clock would be a killer.


    Been a couple days. I'm guessing you need some more time to really get a feel for the phone and Android but how are you liking it so far?
     
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    Been a couple days. I'm guessing you need some more time to really get a feel for the phone and Android but how are you liking it so far?
    Bad ass. I'm loving it. That being said, I have noticed a few random 3G fade outs, but I expected that, so I'm not going to bitch much about it. The screen eats battery for breakfast. The first day, playing around with it and showing it off at work and shit - I killed the battery in 8 hours. Completely dead. Yesterday I turned the screen all the way down (perfectly fine in doors, nearly invisible in the sun), turned the GPS off, turned the Google sync off. Had 24% battery after work. That is with about an hour and a half of streaming Pandora HQ at full volume. Not too bad. I don't like not having a real keyboard, as I anticipated. I am basically relying completely on auto correct, which IMO, is bullshit. At least the auto correct is halfway decent. I just don't like having to make sure my phone thinks I'm typing what I'm actually typing. I'm waiting for SWYPE beta to be turned back on. I think that might make it easier. Maybe. I want to turn auto correct off. Downloaded a shit ton of apps. Speech to text is pretty damn cool.
     
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    ^ Sounds pretty good. Glad you're liking the phone. I think battery life is going to suffer on pretty much all of these large-display devices especially when combined with wireless or a lot of web use.

    Keyboard will take some time to get used to and the lack of tactile feedback will always be a con IMO but it will surely get better with more use/practice.
     

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