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Nexus One

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tokyo Slim, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

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    But what if it did exist, but couldn't work because some lawyer said it needed to wait for an okay from AT&T? [​IMG]

    Then it would be a fantasy world, and you could probably fly if you jumped off a tall enough building.
     
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    Then I'd be happy.

    Not holding my breath though.

    I've thought about this in the past but tonight's exchange has brought it to the forefront of my mind again - what's the benefit of an unlocked handset in the US? Well for a smartphone anyway. Something like this phone for example which is nowhere near its mobile potential without the speedier data connection. If you're just using it for calls/texting then the 3G vs Edge thing doesn't matter but since the mobile internet would be much slower on AT&T what's the point of buying a $530 device vs a $200 one and paying the $175 ETF down the line if you decide you want to leave your contract? Of course, this is before Verizon's ridiculous $350 ETF which has the FCC investigating them.

    It's not like you can buy this and take it to Verizon or Sprint. The biggest plus I can see for unlocked GSM phones is for frequent international travelers who want to pop in a foreign SIM at their destination.
     
  3. Tokyo Slim

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    Then I'd be happy. Not holding my breath though. I've thought about this in the past but tonight's exchange has brought it to the forefront of my mind again - what's the benefit of an unlocked handset in the US? Well for a smartphone anyway. Something like this phone for example which is nowhere near its mobile potential without the speedier data connection. If you're just using it for calls/texting then the 3G vs Edge thing doesn't matter but since the mobile internet would be much slower on AT&T what's the point of buying a $530 device vs a $200 one and paying the $175 ETF down the line if you decide you want to leave your contract? Of course, this is before Verizon's ridiculous $350 ETF which has the FCC investigating them. It's not like you can buy this and take it to Verizon or Sprint. The biggest plus I can see for unlocked GSM phones is for frequent international travelers who want to pop in a foreign SIM at their destination.
    How about for someone who's got about 3 months left on their AT+T contract, and was planning on switching carriers - but also is going to need a new phone sooner than three months from now. [​IMG] That's my dilemma.
     
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    Then it would be a fantasy world, and you could probably fly if you jumped off a tall enough building.

    But Google makes it real. [​IMG]

    Anyways...I think this phone could probably work on AT&T's 3G network. If not, then probably the next generation.
     
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    But Google makes it real. [​IMG] Anyways...I think this phone could probably work on AT&T's 3G network. If not, then probably the next generation.
    It would have to be Nexus Two. I've already told you that the 3G chip in the Nexus One cannot receive AT+T's 3G signal. It is physically not capable of transmitting in the necessary frequency . It would have to run a different 3G chip. Everyone already knows exactly what the phone is capable of doing, and what hardware is in it thanks to the FCC... you should pay attention. [​IMG]
     
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    $200 would be my limit, regardless of plan affiliation
     
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    @TS:

    Sure, makes sense in your situation. But honestly, how often does that happen?

    Most people will/can just keep their old phone for a couple of months until they switch.

    Take my situation. My contract was up in August. I had a Samsung A717 which I was hanging on to until the TP 2 came out. Then I saw the rumblings of the HD 2 and decided to hold out for it. I was going to keep it until then. Mom's phone bummed out. Long story short, I'm using my sister's iPhone 2G and Mom got my phone (she doesn't use her phone often as "it's for emergencies").

    Unlocked handsets, IMO, don't make a ton of sense in the US given the different frequencies/technology of the carriers; particularly in the case of smartphones with data (as most dumbphones will work for voice/texting between carriers - at least for the GSM ones as I don't know about Sprint or Verizon).
     
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    $200 would be my limit, regardless of plan affiliation

    What if Pio pays for your phone?
     
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    @TS: Sure, makes sense in your situation. But honestly, how often does that happen?
    I don't really care about any of you. I am only concerned with my own affairs.
     
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    ^ Die!

    Someday. When I run out of cigarettes to smoke.
     
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    It would have to be Nexus Two. I've already told you that the 3G chip in the Nexus One cannot receive AT+T's 3G signal. It is physically not capable of transmitting in the necessary frequency . It would have to run a different 3G chip. Everyone already knows exactly what the phone is capable of doing, and what hardware is in it thanks to the FCC... you should pay attention. [​IMG]

    I don't get paid to pay attention to this hoopla. [​IMG]
     
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    What I don't get in this thread: when HTC phones like the TP2 are retailing around 500-600 EUR (price in Germany), how should the Nexus One made by HTC with the same/better specs be 1/3 of that price? [​IMG]

    The only possibility would be if Google subsidizes the device to get market penetration.
     
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    The only possibility would be if Google subsidizes the device to get market penetration.

    And you have a problem with that because...
     
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    And you have a problem with that because...
    Not at all. But seeing all the buzz they've created I'm not sure they have to. People are ravaging to buy the iPhone even it runs around 700-900 EUR unlocked, if they can emulate this kind of group think the device would sell for a regular price without problems. I mean, would be nice if they shell out the bucks for us and we can pick up the phone for cheap. I'd guess I'd get one too then as I spend 50% of my time in Germany and the other half in Switzerland with the result of stupid roaming costs so I wouldn't mind to pick up another phone with a Swiss sim card (for us Europeans it really is provider independent). I have the Touch Pro 2 (only moderately pleased) and I'd be curious how the Nexus One will perform.
     
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    Every one is making a big deal about the price of the phone. I'm currently on TMobile, so I could do the 2-year contract extension without a problem and get it for $180. No big deal.

    What really has me disappointed in TMobile is the price per month. The way I understood it the plan is $40 (for talk time) + about $10 (for some sort of texting plan) + $80 (for unlimited web/data). Wait... $80 f'n dollars a month just for data!!!! My current unlimited data plan with my G1 is $25.
    What about this phone would have me use 3+ times the amount of data I'm using now? Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'm not ready for $130+ per month for a cell phone plan.
     
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    im quite satisfied with sprint's unlimited data, txt, mobile to mobile calling plan and the webos phone which is actually quite a "smart" os.

    only downside is their being on antiquated cdma network means no international access ..quite lame
     
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    Android looks great. I just signed a contract w/ Verizon so I'm with the LG enV Touch for 2 years...but it has no smartphone plan requirement since it's technically not a smartphone. Over the life of the two year contract at 45 dollars for a smartphone plan....that's over 1k a year to use a Droid. No thanks. I'll stick with unlimited text and data.

    Hopefully by the time my contract expires the smarthphone plans will come down to Earth and I can get a phone w/ Android!

    So yeah, the phone looks great, I hope Google succeeds beyond it's wildest dreams with it, so in 2 years I'll have a lot of hardware choices.
     
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    Someday. When I run out of cigarettes to smoke.

    You should stop smoking them fags.
     
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    Android looks great. I just signed a contract w/ Verizon so I'm with the LG enV Touch for 2 years...but it has no smartphone plan requirement since it's technically not a smartphone. Over the life of the two year contract at 45 dollars for a smartphone plan....that's over 1k a year to use a Droid. No thanks. I'll stick with unlimited text and data.

    Hopefully by the time my contract expires the smarthphone plans will come down to Earth and I can get a phone w/ Android!

    So yeah, the phone looks great, I hope Google succeeds beyond it's wildest dreams with it, so in 2 years I'll have a lot of hardware choices.


    Damn, even the iPhone only costs $360 more a year for the data plan.
     

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