Newbie to nice shoes. J&M for $365 ?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Chrisjomo, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Chrisjomo

    Chrisjomo New Member

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    Hi,
    I've recently started updating my wardrobe, and decided to invest in some more expensive shoes. I ended up buying a pair of shoes at Johnston and Murphy for $365. (Canadian dollar is at par with US).

    They are the Ellard Saddle shoe - Made in Italy. I love the look of them - I've worn the shoes once and I can see some imperfections that are bugging me, (and possibly sole glue coming unstuck). I was thinking of just getting them replaced with a pair that didn't have the same problem - but the more I research - the more it seems that J&M isn't the place to spend big money on shoes.

    Is there any chance that J&M'S more expensive shoes are better quality than their cheaper shoes - or should I take the back and replace with something from AE? Wish that AE had that style/colour.

    Thanks for any opinions/info!
     
  2. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Seems a bit steep for J&M, but I've heard some of their higher end stuff is pretty decent (I have a cheap pair of oxfords from them that have aged like hell...though comfortable...and a rather pricey pair of suede boat shoes that have aged beautifully)
     
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  3. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Cyber Eliitist

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    $365 is ridiculous. Return. Look into AE. Or, if you're after a more European flare, Meermin. You're after Blake/Rapid stitched or Goodyear welted construction. Pay attention to how the shoes are made, as it will dictate how the shoes wear and age.
     
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    deepitm Senior member

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    $365 is absurd for Johston & Murphy. Heck, $3.65 is ridiculous for em as well. If at all possible, return.

    Meermin, Shipton & Heneage, AE, high end used off eBay, go to Nordstrom Rack. Plenty of options in the $200 - $350 category. You can prob even scoop Aldens on a J Crew 20% off day for that kind of money.
     
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    Mr. Lee Senior member

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    Amen, way off. AE's are always solid, if a bit common, and I have several Shipton & Heneage as well as Herring (both UK brands, so you pay a little for shipping.) Don't be afraid to check out eBay, either: I just got a pair of barely used AE Cordovan longwings for $99.20.
     
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    Patek Senior member

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    Amazon sale right now for AE!
     
  7. Chrisjomo

    Chrisjomo New Member

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    Thanks for the info...I returned them, and am going to pull the trigger on some AE shoes this week. I've also found a few pairs on ebay and Kijiji, too, so I think I'll be buying two pairs, and be on the lookout for more, now that I'm armed with some quality names.

    I knew everyone would say return them - but because I love the style of those shoes, I was still hoping that J&M's handcrafted Italian shoes were of better quality.

    I have to give some props to the salesperson at J&M. She was helpful, and let me return them with grace.

    Chris

    Goodbye JM Shoe.
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    chogall Senior member

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    ya better kiss that goodbye. looks very much like correct grain leather with blake construction, or maybe glued. not worth 365.
     
  9. Chrisjomo

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    Just to put an ending on this post - I took the money from returning the J&M shoes, and bid on a bunch of shoes on Ebay.
    I've won, and received four pairs of (used) shoes:
    Allen Edmonds Lexington Cap toes. Brown (Similar to the Sanford) $100
    Allen Edmonds Milford slip ons Black $80
    Allen Edmond Presidio Burgundy $45
    Salvatore Ferragamo Chukka Black $66

    Very happy with them all. Love the Lexingtons. Was surprised at how near perfect all the shoes were.
    I know a lot more about shoes now, and more about what I like, and I still have $70 to fire off at another pair.
    Watch out 11.5 EE or 12E''s - I'm coming for you. :)

    Chris
     
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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Not a fan of some of those lines, but definitely a nice haul. Pictures?
     
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    gsugsu Senior member

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    Quite a haul and you are far and away better off going this route than your initial choice.
     
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    You just stepped on a very slippery slope...but welcome. We're all sliding away.
     
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    Good move, chrisjomo.
     
  14. Chrisjomo

    Chrisjomo New Member

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    Here are some pics.
    My only shoes.

    Lexingtons. My favorite.
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    Ferragamo Studio Ankle boots. They look like they were only worn once or twice.
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    Presidio. These slip on easy, and are so comfortable. A bit too burgundy.
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    Milford Slip-on. This one was too tight on the top of my foot. Need to stretch the stretchy fabric more.
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