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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jerrysfriend, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. jerrysfriend

    jerrysfriend Senior member

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    Going up to NYC on Christmas day for a six day visit. Staying at the Regency.
    Going to three plays and eating at L'Impero, David Burke and Donatella, Orso, Trattoria del Arte, Brasserie, Fleur de Sel, Auerole (in hotel package), and maybe La Grenouille. Did not like last visits to Mix, Bouley, BLT Steak, and Lever House; went to Jean George (very good) last time.
    I plan on hitting J. Press, Paul Stuart, Barney's, Saks, Bergdorf's, J. Lobb, Oxxford, Century 21 and J. Kos; and although we have one here, also Filene's and Brooks. I hear Rothman's is not much these days.
    Am I missing anything? When in Paris, I had Ernest to guide me around and he was great.
     
  2. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    If you're into it, Jeffrey NY, and lots of boutiques in Soho.
     
  3. arvi

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    sounds like a great itinerary..check out domenico vacca sore on 5th ave betw 59th & 60th..around the corner from borrelli boutique and barneys..bergdorf men's store a few blocks away is also worthwhile
     
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    Rothmans is not much these days.

    It's not bad for a beginner, but not for someone with a decent wardrobe.

    Enjoy the trip.
     
  5. imageWIS

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    Vacca is located next to the Sherry-Netherlands if I recall.

    As well, when I stayed at the Regency I have a really good dinner at Serafina Fabulous Grill, which is located on 61st street, in-between Park and Madison (closer to Madison, though). Great home made gnocchi, although I think you might just want to keep it as a back up for all your other preplanned restaurants.

    Don't forget to check out the RL flagship store on Madison and the huge Polo Sports store (really huge for a Polo Sport store) across the street. As well the T&A store on 57th? near park is worth a visit (just don't order MTM or Bespoke.). Yes, the village and soho have their fare share (oh, who am I kidding? A huge share) of clothing stores, although they are definitely trendier than what is usually found mid / uptown.

    Jon.
     
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    Don't listen to the hype about David Burke and Donatella--the food's actually pretty good  [​IMG]  I've got reservations at Aureole on Tuesday night (21st) and am very much looking forward to it.  Century 21 during the holidays is going to be insane; if you are able, go during work hours.  Anything else you're going to need to get from someone who (very unhappily) has been there more than once in the last year. I've also got a date with a Four in Hand product or two [​IMG] Tom
     
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    It may not seem efficient, but if you just walk up madison from the Grand Central area to 75th or so, you will hit an incredible array of shops, and you can just go into the ones you like.

    Just for shoes, off the top of my head: Alden, Allen Edmonds, Brooks Bros, P Stuart, Ralph Lauren, Santoni, Ferragamo, Lattanzi, Church's, Barneys, Lobb, JMWeston, it really goes on...

    Or do you need to be more efficient?

    If you are looking for a more specific item, experience, or style, let's hear it and I might have a good suggestion.
     
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    Your itinerary and dining spots are well chosen (L'impero is delicious.). I would add a stop at Davide Cenci on Madison around 68th--great shop of distinctive clothes. I think you should also check out the Kiton store on E. 54th. Before your visit, try nysale.com to see if there are any sample sales of note during your visit.
     
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    Just by the shops you mentioned, you NEED to go to Beretta. It's on Madison and 62nd I believe, right next to Etro, which wouldn't be a bad choice to check out either.
     
  10. ernest

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    There is a shop with only cufflinks which I have been told on this forum.

    May be an original place to see.
     
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    Thanks but to tell the truth, you were my guide for restaurants as you know them much better than I do.

    It would be cheaper for you to eat in Ny than in Paris, wouldn't it?
     
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    In addition, on Madison there's Loro Piana, Hermes and the RL at 72th. Cellini on Madison is worth it for the unique watches. On 57th, try Brioni, Burberry and take your wife to Chanel and Tiffany. On 5th there's Kiton and Cartier. Also, lower Broadway has Pearl River and Canal Jeans and Prada is worth seeing for the architecture.
     
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    Hmm, I don't know that it would be cheaper to eat in Paris than NY, yes the dollar is weak, but the better restaurants in NYC are at least comparable if not more expensive than those in Paris/Lyon IMO.
     
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    Lunch for two at the two-star Jamin cost $345, but they gave us free aperitifs, as it was Thanksgiving day.
    Lunch for two at the two-star Helene Darroze was much cheaper, but we only had tapas in the Salon.
    A bottle of Evian in the lobby restaurant of the Hotel Meurice was 11 Euro (about $14).
    Dinner for two at the two-star restaurant in our hotel, Les Elysees at the Vernet, cost 345 Euro ($485). Ernest and I are still reeling from the price for a bowl of the ice cream there; 18 euro, or about $25. They have a special for New Year's Eve-a multi course dinner for 395 Euro each, or only 495 Euro each with wines included for each course.
    In contrast, a dinner for five at Jean-Georges in New York cost $1,100.00 ($220 each).
     
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    (drizzt3117 @ 14 Dec. 2004, 9:36) Hmm, I don't know that it would be cheaper to eat in Paris than NY, yes the dollar is weak, but the better restaurants in NYC are at least comparable if not more expensive than those in Paris/Lyon IMO.
    Lunch for two at the two-star Jamin cost $345, but they gave us free aperitifs, as it was Thanksgiving day. Lunch for two at the two-star Helene Darroze was much cheaper, but we only had tapas in the Salon. A bottle of Evian in the lobby restaurant of the Hotel Meurice was 11 Euro (about $14). Dinner for two at the two-star restaurant in our hotel, Les Elysees at the Vernet, cost 345 Euro ($485). Ernest and I are still reeling from the price for a bowl of the ice cream there; 18 euro, or about $25. They have a special for New Year's Eve-a multi course dinner for 395 Euro each, or only 495 Euro each with wines included for each course. In contrast, a dinner for five at Jean-Georges in New York cost $1,100.00 ($220 each).
    Of course it depends on which restaurants you are going to, I'd imagine dining at Le Cirque would set you back as much as dining at any restaurant in Paris. At least in my experience, the majority of the cost of said meals will typically be for liquid refreshment. The last meal I had at Le Cirque in Vegas with clients ended up being somewhere north of $2k for 3 people, the food being about $400 or so, the remainder coming from a bottle of 92 Chateau Lafitte Rothschild and a bottle of 90 Roederer Cristal...
     
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    When the Euro first came out, it was priced at $1.03.
    Then, it promptly began sinking, bottoming out at 79 cents.
    Since then, it has been on the rise, now at about $1.34. I would say that if the Dollar and the Euro were at par, then the prices for NYC and Paris restaurants would be about the same. However, the current situation is that Paris costs about 35% more.
    In general, however, I think more French people are more willing to spend big money on food than Americans. However, you can eat quite well on the cheap in France, but rarely so here, except for breakfast and Krispy Kremes.
    I think that service is much better and much more respectful there, too. You get called "sir" and "madam" there, instead of "you guys."
     
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    That could certainly be true. My last trip to Paris was last November, at which time the Euro was at around $1.19, and since I was in Europe for six months and was being paid in Euro, I guess it didn't matter either way. My friends working in Europe who received Euro denominated offers when the Euro was < $1 are really really REALLY happy right now.

    I think you can still eat rather well for a low price here in the US, especially at ethnic restaurants, you just need to know where to go generally.
     
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    (drizzt3117 @ 15 Dec. 2004, 1:15) quote] Of course it depends on which restaurants you are going to, I'd imagine dining at Le Cirque would set you back as much as dining at any restaurant in Paris. [quote
    When the Euro first came out, it was priced at $1.03. Then, it promptly began sinking, bottoming out at 79 cents. Since then, it has been on the rise, now at about $1.34. I would say that if the Dollar and the Euro were at par, then the prices for NYC and Paris restaurants would be about the same. However, the current situation is that Paris costs about 35% more. In general, however, I think more French people are more willing to spend big money on food than Americans. However, you can eat quite well on the cheap in France, but rarely so here, except for breakfast and Krispy Kremes. I think that service is much better and much more respectful there, too. You get called "sir" and "madam" there, instead of "you guys."
    I don't think any of the restaurants I went to in Manhattan, I was addressed as "hey guys" or even "wha can I get ya?" Jon.
     
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    May be if 1$=1 euro but not now.


    You can find exepensive restaurant in all cities but with the weak dollar, I guess that Paris is more expensive for top and bad restaurants.

    A big mac is 3.1 euros. How much is it in NY?
     
  20. drizzt3117

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    I haven't been to NYC in awhile but a couple years ago when I worked in NJ, big mac value meals were $5.79 while they were $3.19 in the midwest.
     

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