new ties -- passagio

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by T4phage, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. marcodalondra

    marcodalondra Senior member

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    It is a good point and I have plenty of vintage ties (mostly passed onto me), however is difficult for vintage tie to be in very good condition, and some are indeed too shorts. However with this approach http://www.styleforum.net/t/306495/dissection-and-reconstruction-of-a-charles-tyrwhitt-grenadine you could also wash the fabric and re-assemble the tie with fresh/top quality interlining.
     


  2. gsugsu

    gsugsu Senior member

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    Came across this site which has partnered with Antonio Muro to produce small runs of vintage fabric ties.

    http://www.the-journal-of-style.com/2013/03/26/shop-antonio-muro-ties-from-vintage-silks/

    But the last paragraph on the site is interesting:

    "Unlike more known tiemakers from Naples (I shall not mention names), the Antonio Muro family makes all ties itself. There is a transparent relation between name and a product."

    Lack of transparency is what brings us here now isn't it?
     


  3. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Wow, those look like shit. He should be ashamed to sell that garbage.
     


  4. gsugsu

    gsugsu Senior member

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    Indeed, Harold, indeed
     


  5. teoky

    teoky Senior member

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    Would like to know, how's Antonio Muro tie's quality compare to other more well known SF approved brands such as Hober, Vanda, EG Capelli etc.
     


  6. gsugsu

    gsugsu Senior member

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    I don't have any first hand experience but I have heard very good things from members who do have his ties.
     


  7. C&A

    C&A Senior member

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    Solid construction. I was wearing this linen Muro tie today.

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    And for those who like bar tacks

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    Apart from Grunewald his ties are also sold online by Will whatshisname from SF.
     


  8. StockwellDay

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    ^Exquisite Trimmings as well.
     


  9. teoky

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. Will check them out.
     


  10. sstokol

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    Good tip @gsugsu ... hadn't heard of them before. Will have to check them out.
     


  11. teoky

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    It's because they aren't mentioned much around here. Maybe someone with first hand experience should start an Antonio Mura appreciation thread.
     


  12. C&A

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    I think it is way too easy to brush these controversies off as something that was started by SartodiNapoli like @hymo also tried to do on page 4 of this thread.

    When SartodiNapoli initially started screaming and shouting at Gianni there was no involvement at all of myself or T4Phage. Actually at that time I wasn't looking at the Passaggio Cravatte thread that much and I continued to patronize Passaggio at that time.

    If you go 2 pages back in this thread you can read what I/we found out recently about Gianni's business practices. SartodiNapoli then jumped on the bandwagon, as did others.

    I really believe that the shit storm that is now hitting Gianni, could have been avoided by him if he would have addressed my reasonable questions about inkjet printed silks heads on. Rather than dodging the question and blaming others. He could have even turned it into something positive for his business if he would have made an honest "official statement" and offering a resolution for those who felt misled. Of course, that would only have been necessary for those who were buying his ties and paying the premium for his unique selling point (HAND PRINTED VINTAGE OF WHICH ONLY FEW METERS ARE LEFT AND THAT ARE 40-80 Y/O), not for those who now keep repeating that the vintage aspect is just a minor one, or even totally unimportant.

    Now the fact that Gianni decided to issue an "official statement" that is bending the truth and again contains falsities means that either he is willingly lying to his (former and current) customers or just doesn't know a thing about fabrics. I think its a case of both actually.
     


  13. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Given the discrepancy between his first post in his thread and the official statement, the first is obviously true. Don't know about the second, and given the verity of the first, it is really a moot point to me.
     


  14. C&A

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    Yes, certainly after Gianni decided to keep on bullshitting. Have you seen the posts in which he described how he dates the silk? Being a thirsts antiquarian, saying its all in the touch - which according all the people we have spoken with that handle tie silks for a living either printing or selling them is total nonsense - and comparing his job with people that date whiskey by tasting?




     
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  15. C&A

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    And I honestly don't understand why SF management is not requiring Gianni to do that at the very least. I've seen this being suggested by both you and @emptym already some time ago.
     


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