Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Gianni Cerutti, Oct 9, 2013.
very nice jacket
if it is an odd jacket, it would look great with white trousers...
Thank you very much for your nice words. It is an old wool that has more than 40 years of his life on his shoulders. I took it to Vecchio Drappiere of Milan.
How do I match there pants pants in dark gray wool vintage ever ... what do you think?
Thanks for your comment and for your nice words. Really.
Which package do you mean? The neck of the jacket?
Or the neck of the shirt?
If you're referring to the jacket did everything Mimmo Pirozzi of Via Chiaia in Naples.
While the shirt has done .. D'Avino and is always bespoke
Let me know and thanks for everything
And here's another stage of processing of my doppipetto bespoke ... this stage serves to hold the buttons as precisely as possible.
And also look at the stitching done by hand across the bottom of the sleeve.
This is really good advertising you guys need to make a trip ASAP.
I like the stuff, but would prefer if the peaks on the DB were tempered a bit.
Thanks for the updates, Gianni.
Crossposted from Gianni´s Shirt post.
With all my respects but all this spamming with lies has gone too far, i am a student on Alta Sartoria in Naples and proud friend of all the big names who accepted me when I was nobody so got to defend their names.
First of all, Davinio wasn´t teached by the old Borrellis but for my same old grandmaster, who is considered the best alive and has teached almost all the great shirtmakers in Naples and revises all the rtw from Attolini, Borrelli, Isaia and Kiton, where I cooperate almost daily, I was sent to him by the Borrelli and Kiton masters. Or Davinio fooled you, or you are fooling us or both.
Davinio is doing a copycat of the back side of the collar who was designed by my personal friend, the grandson of Luigi Borrelli, who is now the Kiton master shirtmaker ( after the thing welll know on this Forum happened...)
That is not fair and any who owns a Kiton shirt could know. Davinio dares to use even the same fabric and reference ( I won´t tell the exact one, but any who has worked on Kiton could say as well ). If any copyright existed , your shirtmaker should be blamed for this low dignity shame.
I can upload a video I recorded on Kiton when they are making their collars with this feature as a prove I am for real, in case some one accuses me of not.
Pirozzi is not one of the best tailors in Naples and your db jacket has a lot of flares, so please stop spamming as if he was the best, who on the other hand of course is not the tripledpriced Rubinacci as is being believed here ( who is not respected on Naples or any neapoletan wears or likes him, only his complements are good on my humild opinion as well as the neapolitans, he just live from the name of his grandfather, who was as good as all from the 30s were, not better as he sells himself, just watch any cinema noir movie with James Cagney etc to find same or better tailored soft,slim perfect fitted suits, not like his )
This Pirozzi jacket has the shoulders way off from deltoids, a very poor fit;
Both Davinio whose shirt is honestly very good and Pirozzi suits are good ones ( not as the histrionic loud badly made you posted , sorry to say ), but not the best around and your spamming is not tolerable.
I respected you as good tiemaker until i started to receive a lot of spam and watching you got featured on simply the worst blogs around, who got no idea about dressing or about nothing, and are on this just to make money fooling people spamming with low quality garments.
Two of this are spaniard and say that Brioni is neapoletan and deconstructed, while is roman style, the most armoured ever. Recommends shoes color new black or cordovan, as it the horse leather was a colour , or new black misunderstood from the add, brown is the new black.
Say that Lino Lelucci, the milanese guy is a reputated neapoletan tailor, while he is not any.
Recomends red shoes for business use ( the only one I know doing that is Ronald McDonald )
Also on their books about " style " say that for a two century garment as the tailcoat, an horizontal striped blue shirt instead of the protocolary white shirt has to be wore or that blue jackets shouldn´t be wore by blond people, why everybody knows blue is the colour that best fits blond whity people.
The other blog, who is also friend of this one, is so " elegant " of wearing a Summer cream colour suit with white socks on a meeting on December, very elegant...
He is of course Simon Craptom who is commonly know to get bribed to promote third class impossible garments as the featured on his blog. This guy asked for money as well on the neapolitan business of a close friend and he was lucky to not end on the dock...
Simon gives a lower punctuation to a Kiton shirt, the better rtw shirt available in the world but gives a better note to simply the most atrocius shirt ever by Burgos Madrid, where it lacks of the last button, the shape is not opened at the bottom as a shirt has to be, the buttonholes are sewn with cheap thread instead of the expensive hand embroided one used in Naples. The fit is simply the worst we have seen ever, so we have printed it as example of brutta sartoria, bad tailoring and is on the walls of the Kiton Alta Sartoria school as well as the best around. That same shirt has been featured as a sartorial crime on other professional forums you might know if already didn´t try to spam on with your friends or your ties.
This shirt even has crooked the machine stitching, and defects( all the shirt is a big defect ) as knots on the stitching, due to poor machine operator that is honestly near impossible but they do that as well as plastic buttons while he say are MOP on a comment.
The breast is plenty of wrinkles, the cuff is simply unaceptable, lacks of shoulder height corrections, and is simply the worst crime i have ever seen while he gives a 9 out of 10 ( surely after he got the " shirt " for free as well as some money i guess ) He also promotes one of the worst tailors ever called Larrainzar, the un-tailor of the King of Spain, famous for his 4 sizes bigger cut and collar and sleeves atrotius, who also are on the walls of the alta sartoria schools to teach pupils what a crime is.
That is the " quality " of the blogs you are fetured on, that simply gives me shame as well as have become the jokers of all the real pros I know.
The "shirt" is featured here; http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2013/02/burgos-of-madrid-bespoke-shirt-review.html#.UrulGPYjzhU
I talked on Kiton about this last week and they made a lot of jokes about.
Those are the blogs you promote yourself on, as well as saying impossible to get vintage silk, while you know any pro can get that oldstock silk not by meters but by kilos at very low price in Como or where you and me know...
So please, don´t think we are fools and stop spamming around. I was fan of your tiemaking but enough is enough.
Curious is that Davinio and you got the same " taste " for histrionic not elegant garments as you for jackets from another age, yellow trousers, pink trousers, orange shirts etc that honestly, never seen on a serious mastertailor as any of my close friends. That is respectable, but that is my opinion about.
I put a picture of Davinio here so you can judge, he is the one on pink trousers, only two are elegant on the picture and are friends of mine, Tony, the second and the fourth, both are owners of very good tasted sartorias on Naples and Rome, the rest honestly gives me shame as the fake shirtmaker of the hat, who is not a shirtmaker but he sells himself as one while his switzerland made shirts are simply poor, but that is another story.
Finally, I doubt he chargues 120 euros for 25 pasagges as that is not the rate on Naples for the maximun passages, I guess 120 is for the minimum. And yes, a shirt can take 25 hours to made or even more ( not on semi-industrial factories of course , I myself take even more doing at home out of the factories, that is the only truth found on Gianni´s post.
And a picture of a Larrainzar 3000 euros " suit " made for an European King, Craptom says he is one of the best tailors around as well as is said on those shame blogs I mentioned. Even the lapel has two buttonholes, horrible feature for a King and what a out of pitch triple width sleeves, wrinkled everything, even the shirt by Burgos again is wrinkled. Judge yourself
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Resume, I would be still fan of yours if your post got only the nice pictures but not the spamming as I said and thank you for promote Naples while you are Milanese ( but not this way please ) where I live instead of the armoured Milanese tailors , that are not of my taste
THANK YOU FOR YOUR NICE MESSAGE.
DO YOU JUST A TIP: REMEMBER THAT GOD EXISTS BUT YOU AREN'T!
I DO NOT HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO BED IN THE EVENING ARE HAPPY THAT HE NEVER TOOK AROUND MY CLIENTS AND FRIENDS. AND I HAVE TO DO THIS. AND THE SAME MAKE D'AVINO AND PIROZZI.
THUS ... THESE STATEMENTS MAKE ME LAUGH ONLY
AND I WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH A APHORISM Luigi Pirandello:
"There is no longer mad at the world of those who believe that he had reason".
If I don´t exist how is that I have deleted you this morning from a social page after our conversation?
You can ask Emptym, the great moderator if I exist or not. He would tell you as we have been chatting for some months and sharing my pictures there.
Please , do not lie again , as I can paste the conversation, but my education, that keeps me away from lie and do poor things ( as the ones some accuses me )
I will keep away from polemics and personal insults, but you are using the name of a great family in Naples who opened me their hearths, houses and business to promote yourself fakely and that can´t be tolerate.
You didn´t argue but tried to scape lying and offending the truth as you know I am right, as well as the forum already know and if that makes you laugh, we know that we can´t trust on a person that laughs from the truth.
And please do not mention the God´s name again fakely. Thank you, you are only worsting the situation .
If I am a troll or don´t exist as other say, how is that I am here buying silk from Carlo Riva owner on his factory and her kind daughter, after he examined my garments and let me be his buyer, while some get refused?
The lies got their legs short.
Sorry again to post things not related to the thread.
Where is Pirozzi located? In your post above you said Via Chiaia but I have never seen a shop there.
Pirozzi is located in via CHIAIA 197. and the tailor's shop is on the second floor inside the building.
My advice is to go after Pirozzi 1:0 pm
vait found Pirozzi. sounds and you get.
are you going to go to find them?
I saw their website and they have their address over near Anna Matuozzo.
I don't know if I will go there to visit. I just like to know where the tailor shops are.
Io vivo fuori Napoli a Bacoli. Cercato Pirozzi la scorsa settimana, ma non riusciva a trovare il negozio.
Stavo guardando 97, non 197!
Egli deve essere vicino al Piccolo e Pizzeria Brandi.
The one near AM (Viale Gramsci) is Sartoria Pirozzi (the son used to be a member here) and managed by another Domenico "Mimmo" and registered under his daughter Giovanna name. The one in this thread is Sartoria Domenico Mimmo Pirozzi, a different one.
one to 197 of via Chiaia ... just playing and then go up to the second floor.
If you need more are at your disposal.
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