New Suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by bachbeet, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. bachbeet

    bachbeet Senior member

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    You may remember I purchased an Oxxford recently from ebay. I got it and brought to a local tailor who said she could put working buttonholes on the sleeve. Well, when I got it, no dice. She claimed to have misheard me. Needless to say, I did not pay for what I didn't get.

    I then got a Brioni (that navy wool/cashmere nomentano from honest goods). I brought that one to a tailor near my work (La Jolla). He assured me he knew what to do. I got it back and it's perfect! I wore it yesterday and it's "like buttah!" [​IMG] I brought him the Oxxford and he said he could repair it and convert it to working holes. I'm confident he'll do a great job.

    That Oxxford is also a great suit. It's a navy windowpane on a lighter background that really lightens the effect and it is quite distinctive. The Brioni has cranberry pins that are just great! Two incredible suits that I feel terrific in.

    I'm getting that Zegna sportcoat I posted here before (15 milmil) and I think I can have working holes on that one too. I obviously have some old suits and coats which no longer fit me (too tight due to the weightlifting) so these are some replacements. My wallet has just asked me for a rest. [​IMG]
     
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    kitonbrioni Senior member

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    Sounds like great suits--maybe you can post pictures sometime.
     
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    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sounds great! It will surely lift you beyond "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging" so favored by the masses.
     
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    I then got a Brioni (that navy wool/cashmere nomentano from honest goods). I brought that one to a tailor near my work (La Jolla). He assured me he knew what to do. I got it back and it's perfect! I wore it yesterday and it's "like buttah!" [​IMG] I brought him the Oxxford and he said he could repair it and convert it to working holes. I'm confident he'll do a great job.


    Was it Romeo (at Felice) that worked on your Brioni?

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  5. Mr. Pink

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    You may remember I purchased an Oxxford recently from ebay. I got it and brought to a local tailor who said she could put working buttonholes on the sleeve. Well, when I got it, no dice. She claimed to have misheard me. Needless to say, I did not pay for what I didn't get.

    I then got a Brioni (that navy wool/cashmere nomentano from honest goods). I brought that one to a tailor near my work (La Jolla). He assured me he knew what to do. I got it back and it's perfect! I wore it yesterday and it's "like buttah!" [​IMG] I brought him the Oxxford and he said he could repair it and convert it to working holes. I'm confident he'll do a great job.

    That Oxxford is also a great suit. It's a navy windowpane on a lighter background that really lightens the effect and it is quite distinctive. The Brioni has cranberry pins that are just great! Two incredible suits that I feel terrific in.

    I'm getting that Zegna sportcoat I posted here before (15 milmil) and I think I can have working holes on that one too. I obviously have some old suits and coats which no longer fit me (too tight due to the weightlifting) so these are some replacements. My wallet has just asked me for a rest. [​IMG]

    What tailor did you use in La Jolla? I still haven't found a tailor I'm completely happy with.
     
  6. bachbeet

    bachbeet Senior member

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    FC and reuben: I used Johnny at Picasso. He's down this alley across from around the 3rd parking spot when one drives down Prospect and arrives to the shops. It's his own business. He takes his time. Has an old-style feel. He's also a personable guy. He's not Spanish (like Picasso). He's Armenian. He said he has an attorney-customer who buys 2 Brionis a year and brings them to him for holes, etc.
     
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    Jovan Banned for Good

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    I got it and brought to a local tailor who said she could put working buttonholes on the sleeve. Well, when I got it, no dice. She claimed to have misheard me. Needless to say, I did not pay for what I didn't get.
    Curious... what exactly did she screw up?
     
  8. GBR

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    'Faux' working button holes. Why is there a fascination in the States to get suits converted into something they are not?
     
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    bachbeet Senior member

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    Jovan: What she messed up was she did NOT make them working buttonholes. She simply made them into what is common on the majority of suits - buttons that are only for show.
     
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    Congrats on the purchases. Oxxford is one of the very best and Brioni is almost as nice. Now we need pictures.
     
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    'Faux' working button holes. Why is there a fascination in the States to get suits converted into something they are not?

    Well, since having actual working buttonholes does not serve an actual function and is mostly aesthetic and you can get the same aesthetic from "faux" working buttonholes without the expense of actual working buttonholes, it kind of makes sense.

    Also, I don't think that there's anything specific to the States about "faux" working button holes. All of my Corneliani suits, which are Made in Italy, and sold throughout the world, have "faux" working button holes.

    Also, other than "faux" working buttonholes, what other evidence do you have of people in the States trying to conver their suits to something they are not?
     
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    Also, I don't think that there's anything specific to the States about "faux" working button holes. All of my Corneliani suits, which are Made in Italy, and sold throughout the world, have "faux" working button holes.

    Also, other than "faux" working buttonholes, what other evidence do you have of people in the States trying to convert their suits to something they are not?



    Where the working holes are put in by the tailor/cutter who makes the suit at the time of construction then I have no problem with that. However here they are being fitted after the suit has been sold and by an alteration tailor at that.

    Why the US? - because one only reads of from American posters on AAAC and here. Doubtless of course other nationalities will now emerge!!!!
     
  13. AlanC

    AlanC Minister of Trad

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    Where the working holes are put in by the tailor/cutter who makes the suit at the time of construction then I have no problem with that. However here they are being fitted after the suit has been sold and by an alteration tailor at that.
    Is taking the suit to an alterations tailor at all simply looking for a 'faux' fit or should one simply accept the suit as the original tailor/cutter left it?
     
  14. GBR

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    Having minor alterations so that it fits is sensible - altering atiloring features which do not relate to that is 'faux'.
     

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