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New Sofa: Florence Knoll in Ivory Cato

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by mafoofan, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    Yes, you certainly don't owe me anything. Good to see you find the bolding function such a useful tool.

    Me too.

    Please explain your problems with this dwelling: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...&postcount=304

    Also looking foward to stylistic critiques of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater with an explanation on how its size moves beyond the human scale, and does not allow one to "experience" and "appreciate."
     
  2. pejsek

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    Me too.

    Please explain your problems with this dwelling: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...&postcount=304


    I like the way it fits into the landscape. It's a bit bigger and more stark than I personally would prefer, but it seems comfortable and a fitting expression of its owner's tastes. I hope they are happy there.

    Missed the exercise room, though.
     
  3. Piobaire

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    I like the way it fits into the landscape. It's a bit bigger and more stark than I personally would prefer, but it seems comfortable and a fitting expression of its owner's tastes. I hope they are happy there.

    Missed the exercise room, though.


    My, but you do fixate.

    How do you know it's not there, and he simply did not have a photo of it taken?
     
  4. pejsek

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    Okay, now I see you've appended the Fallingwater house. I honestly don't see your point, except that you seem to have decided I'm simply some 'big city snob' who is obligated to turn his nose up at everything that is not his. This is just plain silly.

    The two houses you reference here make good use of rural settings.
     
  5. Piobaire

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    Okay, now I see you've appended the Fallingwater house. I honestly don't see your point, except that you seem to have decided I'm simply some 'big city snob' who is obligated to turn his nose up at everything that is not his. This is just plain silly.

    The two houses you reference here make good use of rural settings.


    Your first dozen posts or so, certainly made pugnaciously clear, what seemed a complete rejection of anything a) bigger than your domicile and b) not in a major metro area. How did you start your initial position off? Oh yes, "What new type of hell is this?" I believe. I tried several times to suggest perhaps that was too extreme a characterization, but only in the last few posts, have you in any way moderated your assertions. In fact, just today, you started off with that disaster of a house as your QED summation.
     
  6. thekunk07

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    i think you are fucking nuts for paying a lot for a fabric sofa. will trap myriad farts and eventual baby drool, shit and food. leather, ftw
     
  7. pejsek

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    Your first dozen posts or so, certainly made pugnaciously clear, what seemed a complete rejection of anything a) bigger than your domicile and b) not in a major metro area. How did you start your initial position off? Oh yes, "What new type of hell is this?" I believe. I tried several times to suggest perhaps that was too extreme a characterization, but only in the last few posts, have you in any way moderated your assertions. In fact, just today, you started off with that disaster of a house as your QED summation.

    It only seems like a dozen.

    My conclusions seem to have been largely in your own head. How plausible is it that I would posit my own current personal situation as the only way to go?

    I found your original insistence that 2000sf could in any useful way be seen as a marker of poverty and hardship to be foolish and, yes, even, as you say, extreme. I still do.
     
  8. Piobaire

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    It only seems like a dozen.

    Actually, a quick scan indicates I under counted.

    My conclusions seem to have been largely in your own head. How plausible is it that I would posit my own current personal situation as the only way to go?

    Now this is better. A subtle attempt to insinuate it is me, not you, that seems to have some clear baggage with the issue of home size. I would say you should re-read your posts. Let's have a refresher, for instance, of your initial post:

    What fresh brand of hell is this? How much space do you need? My family of four lives in about 1700sf in San Francisco and it's more than enough for us--three bedrooms, double parlor, split bath, kitchen and dining room. I really don't want for more space. When I see 3500sf suburban houses it edges me towards a kind of vertigo. Out by where my parents live in Contra Costa County sports stars have huge compounds that remind me of motels. Where's the glamour in that?

    For the record, while my own tastes are slightly more baroque, I too think the fabric is much nicer than the leather.


    Why, 3.5k square feet apparently make you literally dizzy. Yes, clearly, where did I come up with these conclusions, concerning your views? Obviously made up out of whole cloth!

    I found your original insistence that 2000sf could in any useful way be seen as a marker of poverty and hardship to be foolish and, yes, even, as you say, extreme. I still do.

    You actually had this figured out once, and then seem to have wantonly ignored it. It was all about tweaking Foof. Whom, I might add, is a much better sport than you.
     
  9. pejsek

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    I think this particular question has been pretty well hashed out. In parting I would only wish to add that I am a pretty good sport, perhaps not Foof level but not bad.

    Gotta keep my post count down. Don't want to break 800 until the end of the year.

    Now back to the couch.
     
  10. Aung

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    It looks like a government surplus couch from the 60's.

    Lol.....the internet knows no kindness.
     
  11. dave

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    Reviving a vintage thread in the spirit of my new vintage aquisition

    [​IMG]

    she's a 1964 Florence knoll with the original upholstery and walnut frame.
    apologies for the clutter but it was just moved in and the leather monstrosities my Knoll is replacing have not yet been removed. you can see the edge of the Eames RAR in the front of the pic though. [​IMG]
     
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  13. Mr Herbert

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    lovely. how much nicer are old knoll items than new purchases. not sure if it is build quality or a bit of wear giving it character.
     
  14. dave

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    Thanks guys. I couldn't say how much nicer the originals are as I don't know too mucch about the newer products. I can say that mine is built like a tank and it weighs a ton. Also, all the wear adds to it's character IMO. This one sat in a museum office for most of it's life so it has been used. A lot.

    To those who doubt knoll quality, have a look at 50 years of daily office wear. I'd say it has held up marvelously.
     
  15. Mr Herbert

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    from what ive read, the problem is a recent decline in quality

    all the more motivation to track down some classics
     

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