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New George Cleverley range

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by yfyf, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. yfyf

    yfyf Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    after this statement and with the week pound...
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    George Cleverley has several workrooms based in London, Kent, Cornwall & Northampton (all in England) where they make their RTW shoes. The demand/orders for their shoes cannot be made in just one workroom. It is true that they have a workroom at C&J, BUT, they are made COMPLETELY different and to a much high specification. They are made using Cleverley's craftsman, Cleverley's designs, Cleverley's selection of leathers, and most importantly, Cleverley's lasts. Cleverley's head pattern cutter, Mr. Dominic Casey, spends 3 days in their London workroom and 2 days in their workshop at C&J overseeing all production.

    I hope this clears up any confusion about the topic of Cleverley RTW and Crockett and Jones.

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    ...this is a very competitive offer.

    imo, the last is less "curvy" than the 82 and the round toe(second from the bottom) reminds me strongly of the paprika.
     
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    Those ones are not too bad but there are some pretty awful looking new designs on their website
     
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    Interesting Leather Soul had them made up (I presume) with the classic round toe versus the strong chisel that is Cleverley's "house style" of sorts.
     
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    Interesting Leather Soul had them made up (I presume) with the classic round toe versus the strong chisel that is Cleverley's "house style" of sorts.

    I don't think they've been made up especially for Leather Soul - looking at Cleverley's web site it seems they're available like that from their Bond St store.
     
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    I actually really like their new AC styles. The elastic shoe Leather Soul has (I think it's a dark brown) is very nice.
     
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    I was quite disappointed by their RTW models when I was in London.

    The same with Foster..

    The John Lobb or EG look so much better.
     
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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was quite disappointed by their RTW models when I was in London.

    The same with Foster..

    The John Lobb or EG look so much better.


    Foster's RTW are EG or a lesser make depending on the model. And Cleverley's lower end RTW shoes are not particularly special. But the Anthony Cleverleys are very nice.
     
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    I was quite disappointed by their RTW models when I was in London.

    The same with Foster..

    The John Lobb or EG look so much better.


    This doesn't make sense. As stated above, Foster are made by EG.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Managing Director of Fosters has a close relationship with Hillary Freeman of Edward Green. Thus Fosters opted to launch a new line of RTW/MTO shoes. They are made on lasts not available to other EG clients. I saw them in person over a year ago. They were made up to the same quality as other EG shoes that I have purchased and held

    I do not know how successful Fosters RTW/MTO program has gone. But I really like their various standard bespoke designs. Unfortunately, they were unwilling to replicate these bespoke designs, using any EG lasts, to be made at EG's factory for Fosters via their RTW/MTO program.
     
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    the GC range look no better than a bench grade or hand grade C&J IMO but i guess it is a good entry level product, but i think i'd still prefer bench grade C&J over these
     
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    the GC range look no better than a bench grade or hand grade C&J IMO but i guess it is a good entry level product, but i think i'd still prefer bench grade C&J over these
    he

    luk-cha,

    are you talking quality(construction, leather...) or are with with the guys on the "design"?

    if GC is on par with EG, it would be a no-brainer for me. imo, there's still AC for the "avantgarde".
     
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    luk-cha,

    are you talking quality(construction, leather...) or are with with the guys on the "design"?

    if GC is on par with EG, it would be a no-brainer for me. imo, there's still AC for the "avantgarde".


    well just from how they look, i can not see them being better than HG C&J perhaps inbetween BG and HG but i dont think they will be even close to EG, and designwise, i have never been a fan of any of cleverleys designs
     
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    well just from how they look, i can not see them being better than HG C&J perhaps inbetween BG and HG but i dont think they will be even close to EG, and designwise, i have never been a fan of any of cleverleys designs

    i even forgot or never realized that, no worries.
     
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    This doesn't make sense. As stated above, Foster are made by EG.

    [​IMG]


    They're not the same models using the same lasts...

    They do not look the same .

    The presentation in the shop is very poor.

    I did find them quite disappointing aesthetically speaking
     
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    They're not the same models using the same lasts...

    They do not look the same .

    The presentation in the shop is very poor.

    I did find them quite disappointing aesthetically speaking



    Is that a picture of a Foster's shoe? The leather on that particular one is rather poor quality - very disappointing.
     
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    Is that a picture of a Foster's shoe? The leather on that particular one is rather poor quality - very disappointing.

    to my eye it looks terrific, otherwise it wouldn't have built up the nice patina, not?
     
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    to my eye it looks terrific, otherwise it wouldn't have built up the nice patina, not?

    I do not think it is a shoe that is that old - could be new.

    The leather is course, the grain is fibrous and thus it is creasing in an ugly way - just as cheap shoes do.

    I stand by my view that the leather on that shoe is nowhere near the quality it ought to be for the price.
     
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    I don't think they've been made up especially for Leather Soul - looking at Cleverley's web site it seems they're available like that from their Bond St store.

    Perhaps I should have expressed it, that they chose to use those with the rounded toe, which is of course an option on their shoes.

    I find their RTW on par with other Brit shoes in the same price range. I'd say the semi-bespoke and AC range shine and are as good as others in that range... qualitatively. We can all argue design until the cows come home.
     
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    Foster's "special last" is just the 88 last. It is not unique to Foster. It it just not used by EG on their current stuff. EG made stuff on it in the past.
    I do not think it is a shoe that is that old - could be new. The leather is course, the grain is fibrous and thus it is creasing in an ugly way - just as cheap shoes do. I stand by my view that the leather on that shoe is nowhere near the quality it ought to be for the price.
    That's wrong. The leather is not any different that standard EG RTW. The leather on my Foster is the same as EGs. I'm not saying EG uses the best leather available, but it is incorrect to say that Foster's offerings use inferior leather than EG.
     

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