hello joel cairo! i appreciate your point of view and these collars arent for everyone. my collars are about looking different in a crowd. the psyche of the man's wardrobe is to run with pack and look the same. obviously , you are happy wearing the same penguin suit as everyone else which is fine. please enlighten me your definition of cut-away collar. my collars shows a vertical line over the tie knot and at some point cuts away from the center line ( that imaginery line from the forehead, between the eyes, over the bridge of the nose, splitting the cleft chin, over the tie knot and down the navel). please enligten me on your definition of cutaway collar. by adding a vertical collar, i believe this shirt collar maintains height. in traditional mens dress shirts, the eye travels away from the centerline as the collar tapers 45 degrees from the apex. i want to keep the eye focused up and down on the centerline rather than horizontal. once again. thanks eric.