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new designer in menswear doing research (*US patented dress shirt collars*)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by eric glennie, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. eric glennie

    eric glennie Senior member

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    Good Morning Gentlemen ! I am a new fashion designer in the business and i am doing some market research to see what the menswear community thinks about new collar styles. I U.S. patented these collars many years ago and i would like to know if men are willing to wear unique dress shirts collars. Please view my website www.ericglennie. com to view some unique collar designs perhaps you may have never seen before. I shaped dress shirt collars around the necktie knot to show the neckline with a cleaner style by placing the collar points behind the necktie. Thanks gentlemen for your time and hope you enjoy my art. Please let me know what you think or dont think about a new collar style for menswear. Thanks again Eric Glennie. 952-913-8708
     
  2. Willsw

    Willsw Senior member

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    I appreciate what you're attempting, though I find your collars unattractive. I think it has something to do with the lack of openness in the design, everything looks too sealed and uniform, or maybe that the people I've seen wearing similar collars (I think the Canadian sports announcer with a penchant for garishness and Karl Lagerfield come to mind) aren't really my aesthetic role models.

    Also, I prefer a tie clip to a hidden loop.
     
  3. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    yeah, maybe Im too much of a trad to appreciate that, but it just looks wrong to me. I don't like how the collar points disappear under the tie, and how long they are in general. Looks "uptight", or else vaguely "Matrix-ish", and I don't think it would flatter many face shapes.

    EDIT: I just realized there are other ones on the site. I'm gonna be perfectly blunt- the ones which cover up the knot on the tie made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. Somehow I'm reminded of genital mutilation when i see those. The third style didnt bother me as much.
     
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    imageWIS Senior member

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    Um, according to your website, you invented the cutaway collar?

    Jon.
     
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    It creates a bit of an odd zig zag shape and really forces the tie out from the shirt. The second design where it hides the knot completely I don't really like. If I spent time to make my perfect knot I want to show it to the world [​IMG] I know a lot of people here are more fans of the opposite with the spread collars. Your link is wrong also btw. You forgot the .com
     
  6. eric glennie

    eric glennie Senior member

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    thank you for your response image WIS. I have shown my designs to many people over the years. NFL and NBA players, movie studios, celebrities, fashion designers, manufacturers, fashion stylists, fashion editors, newspaper editors, custom shirtmakers, and tv personalities. My collars have been seen on John Travolta in the movie "swordfish" and on ESPN anaysts and NBA superstars. I have patents on the cutaway and cutout collar designs and my records date back to 1993. I believe i am the first person in the world to shape collars around the necktie. Just wanted to let the forum know where these designs came and they were invented in my basement. thanks eric glennie.
     
  7. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    thank you for your response image WIS. I have shown my designs to many people over the years. NFL and NBA players, movie studios, celebrities, fashion designers, manufacturers, fashion stylists, fashion editors, newspaper editors, custom shirtmakers, and tv personalities. My collars have been seen on John Travolta in the movie "swordfish" and on ESPN anaysts and NBA superstars. I have patents on the cutaway and cutout collar designs and my records date back to 1993. I believe i am the first person in the world to shape collars around the necktie. Just wanted to let the forum know where these designs came and they were invented in my basement. thanks eric glennie.
    I don't think "cut-away" means what you think it means.
     
  8. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    How successful is this particular collar?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Somehow I'm reminded of genital mutilation when i see those.

    Strangle it does ! No offense though to u Eric, keep up with the creativity and the kinds, but i pref the traditional designs
     
  10. philosophe

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    ^^^That collar is incredibly ugly! As are, I'm sorry to say, your other original designs.
     
  11. eric glennie

    eric glennie Senior member

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    thanks visionology! i believe art is about shaking up the establishment. picasso's art ( cubism) was chastised before it was revered. howabout bringing art back into menswear fashion. it seems everyone is wearing clothes for the label and turning away from the art. if you line up 50 dress shirts, take off the logo and label, and ask any expert to pick out the designer they would fail. the expert can pick out an eric glennie signature design, whether the general public accepts this style is to be determined. i want to introduce a new collar style and a paradigm shift from generation of necklines. the focal point of my neckline is the collar rather than the necktie and knot. i want to let the forum know there is a different point of view in mens fashion. i have more ideas for mens and womenswear so i hope the general public has an open mind . thanks eric.
     
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    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    if you line up 50 dress shirts, take off the logo and label, and ask any expert to pick out the designer they would fail.

    again, and I don't mean to be a jerk, you have no idea what youa re talking about.
     
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    a paradigm shift from generation of necklines
    I like that
     
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    again, and I don't mean to be a jerk, you have no idea what youa re talking about.

    I agree; he really has no idea what he is talking about.

    Jon.
     
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    I don't think "cut-away" means what you think it means.

    Indeed. Eric, for edification, here is a pic of an H&K Cutaway collar:

    [​IMG]

    Jon.
     
  16. eric glennie

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    hello joel cairo! i appreciate your point of view and these collars arent for everyone. my collars are about looking different in a crowd. the psyche of the man's wardrobe is to run with pack and look the same. obviously , you are happy wearing the same penguin suit as everyone else which is fine. please enlighten me your definition of cut-away collar. my collars shows a vertical line over the tie knot and at some point cuts away from the center line ( that imaginery line from the forehead, between the eyes, over the bridge of the nose, splitting the cleft chin, over the tie knot and down the navel). please enligten me on your definition of cutaway collar. by adding a vertical collar, i believe this shirt collar maintains height. in traditional mens dress shirts, the eye travels away from the centerline as the collar tapers 45 degrees from the apex. i want to keep the eye focused up and down on the centerline rather than horizontal. once again. thanks eric.
     
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    Broadcasting live from SF:

    Folks, were here to tell you about Adventursome spirit Eric Glenie who asked for honest opinions from the gents over at AAAC and after emerging from there only slightly bruised headed over to SF figuring he would be ok there as well.

    Good idea? This newscaster says no, its about to get ugly.

    Stay tuned!
     
  18. imageWIS

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    hello joel cairo! i appreciate your point of view and these collars arent for everyone. my collars are about looking different in a crowd. the psyche of the man's wardrobe is to run with pack and look the same. obviously , you are happy wearing the same penguin suit as everyone else which is fine. please enlighten me your definition of cut-away collar. my collars shows a vertical line over the tie knot and at some point cuts away from the center line ( that imaginery line from the forehead, between the eyes, over the bridge of the nose, splitting the cleft chin, over the tie knot and down the navel). please enligten me on your definition of cutaway collar. by adding a vertical collar, i believe this shirt collar maintains height. in traditional mens dress shirts, the eye travels away from the centerline as the collar tapers 45 degrees from the apex. i want to keep the eye focused up and down on the centerline rather than horizontal. once again. thanks eric.

    Did you not see the picture I posted? Just look at post # 15.

    Jon.

    BTW: the cutaway collar in one form or another has been in existence for at least 150 years.
     
  19. Joel_Cairo

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    eric, please see the image a couple posts back. For the last century or more, a cutaway collar has been one where the points cut back toward the shoulders, leaving a wide space for the tie knot. A cutaway collar is not a turtleneck with a vagina for the tie to slip through.

    asked for honest opinions from the gents over at AAAC and after emerging from there only slightly bruised headed over to SF figuring he would be ok there as well.

    link please [​IMG]
     
  20. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    eric, please see the image a couple posts back. For the last century or more, a cutaway collar has been one where the points cut back toward the shoulders, leaving a wide space for the tie knot. A cutaway collar is not a turtleneck with a vagina for the tie to slip through.



    link please [​IMG]



    No...Its better if you formulate your own opinions about the designs than if you are influenced by others.
     

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