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New "Black Style"

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jpeirpont, Jan 19, 2005.

  1. jpeirpont

    jpeirpont Senior member

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  2. LA Guy

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    Right. All black dudes dress in Fubu and wear do-rags now. And the next decade will see them all done up in Saville Row.

    While the popularity of certain modes of dress wax and wane in every community, and arguably more visibly so in the black community, the "gentleman" look is hardly a new phenomenon in the AA community. A lot of the look is borrowed from the Rudeboys, and was prevalent in communities with large Jamaican populations for a long time, especially in NYC. Take a look at photographs from the early eighties. Even in later movies like Boyz in the Hood, and you'll see evidence of this phenomenon, when one of the girls notices that one of the guys (forgot his name) looks "GQ".

    But... everything old is new again, and it must have been a slow news day in LA. I just wish that the LA and NY times would stop writing fashion stories a couple of years after it had happened. Pharrell and company had the "high/low concept" down pat years ago, mixing Paul Smith shirts with jeans and sneakers, and Puffy has been visiting Saville Row for at least as long. Not to mention the spate of movies about black gangsters during the Harlem Renaissance era over the last 8 years or so.
     


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    so blacks can only make clothing choices based on what corporate america (mtv, magazines, etc...) tells them is acceptable?

    i hope he was 10 years old when he had this 'epiphany' because you'd have to be a clueless fool not to know that people of all races dressed better in the old days. kind of reminds me of those black guys who think guitar is for white boys. the best guitarists, besides jimmy page, have all been black or latino.

    edited for bad spelling.
     


  4. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Am I the only one concerned about this article, it goes to great lengths to pin down "blackness" in fashion, as if because blacks don't have a visable fashion icon from the 20th century that they can't aspire to dress "traditionally". Likes kind of like saying since whites have few icons in basketball (Larry Bird and Bob Cousey) that they don't aspire to be basketball players. I happen to like basketball and have no trouble identifying and respecting the talents of MJ and Lebron, I wonder why journalists always have to point out how "troubling" it is for minorities.
     


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    whnay, yes, i agree. i found the tone of the piece to be condescending, but, hey, people can often be condescending toward themselves too.
     


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    Prince seems a sartorial peacock as well.
     


  7. jpeirpont

    jpeirpont Senior member

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    The South had a sizable black middle class and upper middle class population, who largely dressed in the same manner of most middle and upper middle class whites. Someone like like Bently could easily just be influence by his business man father, neighbor or uncle.
    Jamaican influence (Clark Wallabees, Kangol hats and Bally shoes) was largly on the lower income blacks throughout the Northeast.
     


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    Lower income urban blacks were implicitly and explicitly the subject of the article.
     


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    I always sort of like the Edge, and that dude who played for the Cocteau Twins.
     


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    And Eric Clapton, SRV, and Johnny Greenwood, among others (such as Van Halen, Slash, Jeff Beck). But I do agree, Jimmy Page is the best.
     


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    . the best guitarists, besides jimmy page, have all been black or latino.
    And Eric Clapton, SRV, and Johnny Greenwood, among others (such as Van Halen, Slash, Jeff Beck). But I do agree, Jimmy Page is the best.
    It's clearly Robert Fripp. (as we veer further off course...)
     


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