New bespoke suit...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Jovan, Jun 2, 2006.

  1. dah328

    dah328 Senior member

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    You should really not expect great work at this price point. For every great deal such as Jantzen, there are a hundred guys who will sell you a cheap, fused suit made from the finest Italian cardboard. Absent a plurality of positive reviews from knowledgeable members (such as there are for Jantzen), I would steer clear of any deal that looks too good to be true.
     
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    You should really not expect great work at this price point. For every great deal such as Jantzen, there are a hundred guys who will sell you a cheap, fused suit made from the finest Italian cardboard. Absent a plurality of positive reviews from knowledgeable members (such as there are for Jantzen), I would steer clear of any deal that looks too good to be true.

    He did have every reason to believe there was quality work; take a look at the pictures on the first couple of pages on this thread...looks like excellent work to me, not a full Savile Row bespoke suit, but fine craftsmanship. I like to give the benefit of the doubt, and I would say its possible, as with anything, he got a lemon.
     
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    You've got to know those aren't pictures of their work. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Or cheap Savile Row.
     
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    Ah, I thought you meant the pictures on the main page of baronboutique. As for Jovan's pics, you can't really see the craftsmanship of the suit from those pictures. The fit is respectable for mailed-in measurements, but there's no way the quality is anything more than mediocre. I'm posting this mainly for the benefit of people like Paul who may have set their expectations too high based on the experience of a single member. Look for some consensus before placing your order or be prepared to risk the price of the suit.

    dan
     
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    Ah, I thought you meant the pictures on the main page of baronboutique. As for Jovan's pics, you can't really see the craftsmanship of the suit from those pictures. The fit is respectable for mailed-in measurements, but there's no way the quality is anything more than mediocre. I'm posting this mainly for the benefit of people like Paul who may have set their expectations too high based on the experience of a single member. Look for some consensus before placing your order or be prepared to risk the price of the suit.

    dan


    Ah, No harm, no foul. I remember Jovan posting some other pictures that were close up, especially around the lapel area. Perhaps he removed them for whatever purpose? Anyway, the quality looked good from those pictures. But I do agree; no one should expect to receive a top quality suit, but they should expect something better than what you can find on the rack. This assuming, of course, that measurements have been taken properly (read: have someone else do them and ensure their accuracy).

    It is true that purchasing a suit in such a manner over the internet is a gamble, but hopefully the end results in happiness on behalf of the customer. In that case, it does not matter if it was a $5000 bespoke suit or a $300 MTM suit. I plan on doing this in a month or so and definitley plan on reporting back. It may or may not be Baron Boutique, but one cannot truly judge until one has experienced it themselves.
     
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    It is true that purchasing a suit in such a manner over the internet is a gamble, but hopefully the end results in happiness on behalf of the customer. In that case, it does not matter if it was a $5000 bespoke suit or a $300 MTM suit.
    You just can't expect $5k quality at a $300 price. I have garments from a range of makers and without exception, the more expensive ones are better made. It is not so much that the cheaper makers are not willing to produce the quality of work of the expensive makers, it is that they are not capable of doing so. In recognition of that, I choose the level of quality I want and understand that it comes with a corresponding cost.

    Regards,

    dan
     
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    You just can't expect $5k quality at a $300 price. I have garments from a range of makers and without exception, the more expensive ones are better made. It is not so much that the cheaper makers are not willing to produce the quality of work of the expensive makers, it is that they are not capable of doing so. In recognition of that, I choose the level of quality I want and understand that it comes with a corresponding cost.

    Regards,

    dan


    Dan, you are missing my point. I am not arguing about the quality of a $5k suit compared to $300; obviously the $5k wins hands down. I am merely suggesting that if someone is happy wearing a $300 suit, and they look good, and they feel good in that suit, the price they paid does not matter to them. The same could be said about someone wearing a $5k suit. I am merely pointing out that the happiness level of most is not about the price; it is about how they feel in the clothes. This is why you will see many happy men who have purchased great fitting suits (or had them tailored to do so) at vintage stores and the like.
     
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    Paul: I'd send it back and tell them to correct it. Did you ask for proper canvassing? That's $40 extra, bud. And there IS canvassing on the lapel when you get that.
     
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    Paul - sorry to hear about your bad experience. I might be a little thick but I don't understand your points 3 and 4 though - care to explain (or better show scans)?
    Same here. I'm particularly unclear on what it means that the sleeve buttonholes were "falsely manufactured". I assume you don't mean they were, say, painted on . . .
     
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    My sleeve buttonholes are fully functional so... I don't know his deal is.
     
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    Although they are only doing shirts, i prefer to shop at www.designingme.org then baronboutique its much more professional plus you can do much more customisation to your shirt.
     
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    Although they are only doing shirts, i prefer to shop at www.designingme.org then baronboutique its much more professional plus you can do much more customisation to your shirt.

    shhh...
    3 out of your last 4 posts have essentially been advertising for this site... You must really like your shirts... [​IMG]
     
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    Although they are only doing shirts, i prefer to shop at www.designingme.org then baronboutique its much more professional plus you can do much more customisation to your shirt.

    In the interest of fairness, have you ordered from Baron Boutique before? If not, how can you judge the "professionalism" of a firm that you haven't ordered from. If you have, thanks for the recommendation, but what is better about them?
     
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    Bespoke seems such a briar patch. It appears that they a more than few out there who are ready to take advantage of the bespoke beginners. Reading the forums should be required before going bespoke.
     

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