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Neckties: A Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Sep 15, 2015.

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  1. raindog

    raindog Well-Known Member

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    How do you find this one (I mean both the tie and the knot)? IT's my first six-fold.

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    Do you like Drake's knitted ties or the softer Italian kind? List pros/cons.
     
  4. chippneckwear

    chippneckwear Well-Known Member

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    It would be presumptuous of me to say my Italian knit ties ($55) are better than Drake's knit ties. There are many things in our "clothing" world that are personal preference. This is one of them.
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  5. sprout2

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    That is neither a pro nor a con
     
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  6. TweedyProf

    TweedyProf Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Two months since a post here?

    Question: how much do ties such as wool and shantung stretch?

    In measuring some of my ties for sale recently I was surprised to find their lengths longer than expected. E.g. a bespoke challis tie I had made comes out at 61 inches in length but I'm pretty sure I asked for about 59 perhaps 59.5. In general, my wool ties tend to measure longer than expected, 60-62 inches. Is this stretch or are sellers inaccurate in measurement.

    We know the lore is that grenadines and knits will tend to stretch, but other fabrics?
     
  7. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Depends on the wool. I was curious about it too a few months ago. This wool tie

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    has stretched some. It's fuzzier and maybe more loosely woven. Whereas this denser wool tie from Calabrese hasn't stretched at all despite being worn more frequently

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  8. TweedyProf

    TweedyProf Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    @Claghorn how about that tan Conrad Wu tie you wear. I'm curious about how shantung holds up.
     
  9. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What are the original measurements? I'll measure it when I get home; it definitely gets enough wear so that if shantung does stretch, this'll show it. Assuming the listed measurements are dead on (unlikely)
     
  10. SartodiNapoli

    SartodiNapoli Senior member

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    Should do not stretch it handled with care, specially do not pull agressively when untie the knot.

    Shangtung should do not stretch by any reason.
     
  11. Gavinband

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    Number 2 too bright a purple? Looking for an 'eggplant' colour neat... missed out on a nice Shibumi one which is now out of stock. :( I tend to go more for the style of number 1.
     
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  12. TweedyProf

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    I'm finding a lot of variability in tie measurements from Drake's, I mean all over the place. Yes, if you have a chance, I'd be curious about the length. I suspect Sartodi is right about shantungs and stretching but would be good to hear other people's experiences.
     
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    IMHO number two is the winner here, it's all subjective of course. I have a couple of purple knits though and yet to add to that. I do have a lovely EG Cappelli PS though :)
     
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    Very interesting TP, my shantung's measure as new

    Without measuring I know my Drakes grenadines have stretched, I accept Sartodi is likely right that it is my fault. Nevertheless, my EGC grenadine (of a similar construction) have not and are treated in the same casual manner.
     
  15. Gavinband

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    Ty sir. I am only after one purple neat as it won't be a staple.... But still nice to have and wear on occasion! I have to occasionally move away from navy, burgundy and some shade of green!
     
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    This A&S (charcoal) arrived the other day in readiness for cooler times ahead, liked it so much I ordered the blue one too. Really impressed.


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  17. TweedyProf

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    Thanks Cleav. Good to know that your shantungs are stable. My newest tie (Drake's) measures at least two inches longer than the listed measurement on the seller's site. Puzzled by the variance I'm seeing.
     
  18. Gavinband

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    Going through ties to weed out some I rarely wear. This is one I picked up in berg and berg sale a year or so ago. Wool/silk grenadine mix I think, at the time I thought I would wear but have perhaps once? Thoughts on it? Also how to wear? It's thicker than my other olive grenadine tie and doesn't tie as sleek a knot, not particularly wild about it.

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    Ugly colors. Throw it to the wolves
     
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  20. TweedyProf

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    matka versus linen...comment and contrasting pictures please. Both have the advantage of not being a slubby as shantung, but there's often a subtle streakiness that I like.

    Please post if you have ties in both fabrics, and note maker too.
     

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