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Necktie shootout!

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As part of my latest clothing-related project (see The Great Necktie Culling of 2010), I submit this related thread.

Here are two ties that seem very similar to me. One is a Brooks Brothers classic (generally favored "˜round these parts
) and the other is a Jos A. Bank cheapie (generally despised here
).



To me, they seem to have the same weight and flexibility, the same degree of sheen and texture, and even very similar patterns. They both knot very well and untie easily. After receiving similar amounts of wear, both still hang straight and true. The chief difference I can discern is merely that one is a bit more gray than green, the other a bit more green than gray. (This photo slightly exaggerates the difference in color.)

Please help me understand why one of these ties may be preferable to the other, if, indeed, you even think that's the case. I'm trying to establish some guidelines that will help me select better ties in the future.

Contributions to my related thread would also be greatly appreciated.
 

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Originally Posted by Threadbearer
One is a Brooks Brothers classic (generally favored "˜round these parts
) and the other is a Jos A. Bank cheapie (generally despised here
).


I don't think brand is necessarily very helpful in determining the aesthetic quality of necktie. Good makers can make ugly ties and low quality makers can make fine looking ties. Personally, I don't care for either of these, but the smaller pattern of the left one is less offensive. The color and and 3-D effect of the one on the right seems very dated.
 

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i dont like that skewed shape of the repeated pattern on the right
 

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Tell me which tie is the Brooks Brothers and which is the Jos. A Bank and I will tell you which one is better.
No, seriously, the one on the left looks much nicer to me. The funny shape to the pattern on the right tie (I'm talking about the way the squares are distorted as though in a funhouse mirror) is distracting and as others have pointed out looks dated. It is also quite busy what with the large "herringbone" background. The smaller, tighter, more businesslike pattern on the left is superior, IMO.
 

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Originally Posted by Douglas
Tell me which tie is the Brooks Brothers and which is the Jos. A Bank and I will tell you which one is better.
No, seriously, the one on the left looks much nicer to me. The funny shape to the pattern on the right tie (I'm talking about the way the squares are distorted as though in a funhouse mirror) is distracting and as others have pointed out looks dated. It is also quite busy what with the large "herringbone" background. The smaller, tighter, more businesslike pattern on the left is superior, IMO.

My thoughts as well. Also, the darker color of the left is less likely to upstage whatever you're wearing.
 

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The results of this test are already skewed because everyone knows which tie is the "better" one.

Post two similar looking ties at differing price points without stating the maker or cost. Then lets see some answers.
 

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Originally Posted by Douglas
Tell me which tie is the Brooks Brothers and which is the Jos. A Bank and I will tell you which one is better.


China?
 

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I like how you didnt say which is which. The one on the left is marginally better than the one on the right, IMO. Again, its that jacquardy- tone over tone pattern in the silk that auto cheapens it. If the one on the left was a silk twill, just brown with the blue florets, I think I would dig it. But all that extra texture is unnecessary and tacky-ish. The right one?
 

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Originally Posted by Threadbearer
Please help me understand why one of these ties may be preferable to the other, if, indeed, you even think that's the case. I'm trying to establish some guidelines that will help me select better ties in the future.
I would avoid geometrics altogether. Most of them are just fugly regardless of maker.
 

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I dislike the left one less than the right one.

Textured solid ties ftw!
 

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Originally Posted by SpooPoker
The more recent Hermes geometrics are not that bad, Parker.

I'm sure some are nice, but in general I think it's safer to avoid them altogether.

Threadbearer, here's a couple good posts on Will's blog about building a necktie wardrobe:

Part 1 and Part 2
 

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Originally Posted by Parker
I'm sure some are nice, but in general I think it's safer to avoid them altogether.

Threadbearer, here's a couple good posts on Will's blog about building a necktie wardrobe:

Part 1 and Part 2


I found those articles tremendously useful when I was first trying to build a tie wardrobe. I still don't have a good number of the suggested pieces, but it's much better than randomly selecting whatever happens to draw your eye in the big pile of ties when you don't know how to work a tie into an outfit yet.
 

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