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Interesting. These two Attolini coats have no rope at all: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....me=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....me=WDVW That's the Attolini look I'm used to. In any case, a lot of roping is contrary to the Neapolitan principle of softness. There should be at most a wafer thin pad and a little strand of wadding at the sleevehead. The pleats of the upper sleeve are worked around the wadding.If I am not mistaken, that photo is from the Attolini website