NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

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  1. skitlets

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  2. NorCal

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    Dub dub dub dub dub . . . .
     


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    Pencil Steph Curry in as starting G for the USMNT for the foreseeable future. The dude's game is tailor made for the international game, at a totally different level
     


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    then again so does carmelo anthony :lol:

    its like the euro's are mesmerized at carmelo's iso ball ability (the euro leagues have that super body up defense where bigmen will just pass out for a less difficult shot - hence the passing) but melo will use his ass and body to create space.

    damn the celtics traded for bayless, in a two pronged trade (got rid of one of the last remaining bad contracts in David Lee and also got some probable PG help). I don't know how much under the salary cap Danny Ainge wants to be next year, but it might get to the point where you have to start overpaying players to make the salary minimum.

    maybe it means that they are going to sign rondo to a max contract? most likely not... they are probably going to trade him before february. I'm super curious to see what they can get for rondo if they do trade him.
     


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    While no one was looking, the Knicks almost swept their Texas trip.
     


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  7. RFX45

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    Clips would be crazy to trade Griffin for Anthony, Blake is much younger and still hasn't reached his ceiling while Melo is maxed out and likely on the decline? Melo probably has a good 5 years left while Griffin still has 10 in him easy and he is not even at his peak.

    Blakes been making his jumpshots now and are improving immensely on the foul line, he still needs a go to post move but he is expanding it and he has got to be top 10 (if not top 5) of the best passing big men in the game today.


    At this point with the Knicks and Lakers tanking, I'd really wouldn't even mind a Melo and Pau swap. I don't know, at least the Lakers could still use Melo for the next 3-5 years and transition Kobe to Melo while Pau will seem useless after this year, he just isn't the same and both players could probably use a change of scenery at this point. I don't even like Melo like that but right now, I am not sure what else the Lakers could do or get for Pau that will help Kobe.

    I'd try and trade Nash now too, it's evident dude likely won't be much help anyways.

    Just thinking out loud on my part but since the Lakers are sucking right now, I wouldn't mind that experiment a la Dwight I guess.
     
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    Why on Earth would the Knicks trade Melo for Gasol?
     


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    blake for carmelo should be unthinkable. but we are talking about the clippers.
    and, come to think of it, that's the same thing i thought of the gasol-bynum rumors. but now that we've got jimmy buss at the helm ....
     


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    I don't know, Gasol is buried on the bench and almost certainly won't be back. Saving 20 mil and furthering your riggin for Wiggn is not the worst option.
     


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    Because Melo is owed another $23.5m next year while Pau isn't? Melo hasn't committed to resigning with them either and NY is the second highest payroll in the league and they are pretty much stuck with another $23.4m with Amare next year (who is next to useless these days).

    Again, just thinking out loud but NY is better off just resetting all over again, this current team just can't win or make the playoffs this year even in a terrible Eastern conference.
     
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    are you thinking of kamin? because pau has definitely been up and down this year, but still averaging 16-10-3 with an EFF of better than +22. and since his recovery from the flu or whatever, he's been playing pretty well, averaging something like 25 and 12.
     


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    Yah Pau isn't buried in the bench, he's been starting.
     


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    Last year (or was it 2 years ago??) I was all Melo for Pau, but to do that trade now the Knicks would have to be crazy or be told by Melo that he is not resigning. Griffin for Melo makes more sense, but it is not happening because Dolan loves Melo and is 99.9% sure in his mind that Melo is resigning. I could see why the Clips would want Melo, they made a lot of moves in the offseason and they probably felt that they were a championship contender coming into the season but I think Doc looks at that team and realizes that he does not have a Paul Pierce, a player that can command a double team facing the basket or with his back to the basket, like Melo can. Melo is also a better free throw shooter than Griffin, which becomes really important in the playoffs. With CP3 running the show (and he loves Melo), Melo would almost definitely become a more efficient scorer and the Clips have a bonafide top 3 scorer.

    Melo is 29, he can easily give you another 5 years of 20+ PPG and while he may have peaked skills wise, the skills he has are shared by maybe another 2-3 players in the league. Other than KD and KL to an extent (and LB who can do a little bit of everything), what other big in the league can play the 3 or 4, score from 23 feet or 2 feet, score facing the basket or with his back to the basket, command double teams from 15-18 feet out and can take a rebound and run it all the way back and either create for himsef? He can create his own shot from anywhere on the court. Those skills come in real handy in tight playoff games. Melo's biggest issues have been his volume shooting (with many bad shot selections) and his defense/rebounding. His rebounding is now OK, not what it should be and his defense comes and goes but I attribute all that to coaching. A guy like Doc that would hold his balls to the fire and that has won a chip would probably get more out of Melo than Karl or Woodson, whom have just been yes men to Melo's desires.

    I'd like Griffin on the Knicks, particularly with young players like Hardaway, Shumpert, Moure etc but the Knicks don't trade for young players, we trade young players for old.

    I guess it comes down to where Doc feels the Clips are and what type of team he wants them to be, an OKC where you know the 2 guys that will be taking the last few shots in tight games or a San Antonio, where everyone on the court is a potential last shot taker. And again, Dolan would sell his kids before trading Melo.
     


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    I'll just leave this here:

    If the Knicks do not face Indiana/Miami in the 1st/2nd round, they will be in the Eastern Conf. Finals.
     


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