NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    If a 1 year deal is any indication, I don't think anyone knows. He was marginalized in Dallas.
     


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    HRoi Senior member

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    Hey, Kaman is a good pickup. Wasn't he a solid 12/10/2 for a long time with the Clips? He'll cost a lot less money and dwightmares too.
     


  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Yah but that was before anyone was remotely good in the Clips (I think) plus DAntonis system is a running team, Kaman is more of a post-up iso guy or a quick mid-range shooter. He is much, much slower than Dwight. I am just not sure he is the best fit at center for the Lakers.
     
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  4. AldenPyle

    AldenPyle Senior member

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    I was kind of looking forward to seeing a Lakers team focused on Gasol at center. Seemed like the only upside of losing Bynum/Howard was letting Pau play his natural position. Guess they will try to move him for picks.
     


  5. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Lakers doesn't really do picks.

    And getting Kaman pretty much says they want Pau as a PF for most of the game.
     
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    NAMOR Senior member

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    the upcoming fantasy bball season is going to be epic.

    Wade is no longer a first rounder
    Kobe looks like a good 3rd rounder
    Rondo's value is a huge question mark
    Harden is a top 3 pick
    Dirk and Westbrook are both 2nd rounders

    1. Lebron
    2. Durant
    3. Harden
    4. Paul
    5. Love
     
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  7. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I say Westbrook is still a first round pick for sure, I don't know how that would change, he'll be good and ready next season. Same way Rose will be back to being a first rounder again next season, likely top 10 if not 5 once 100%.

    They also said Kobe was a goner last year due to his knee and dude beasted. I think he went close to 3rd round in our league here and just dominated like no one expected. I give him at least a late 1st/early 2nd round. People will take a chance at him if he is close 100% in the beginning of next season especially now that he is the undisputed #1 option once again.

    Dirk, he isn't hurt this off-season so we'll see. He'd still be first rounder if he actually plays 100% to start the season, Calderon also helps his value a bit. I mean really, I am not sure how you can put Love 5th and Dirk as 2nd roudner when Love only played 18 games last season and missed plenty a season before that too.
     


  8. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    Im not overpaying for an injured player who suffered a critical injury (e.g. knee, ankle). However I am more optimistic about Love because of his age and relatively "minor" injury (hand). Having had all 6 months to rest an injury that otherwise requires 2-3 months to heal, I feel good with him at number 5. Rose will be a late first rounder and whoever picks him will probably enjoy a great season. He needs to show me that he is a 3-7 guy again.

    I fully believe in beast Kobe as did the manager who drafted him at the beginning of round 2. No reason he couldnt replicate his great season except for his injury, which according to the doctors, should heal around christmas. I dont think he will be ready for Nov 1. Even if he does beat the timeline, he risks aggravating the injury. When its all said and done, Kobe will miss at least a quarter of the season. Not worth the risk for an old, high-octane player
     
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  9. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    That same hand injury made Love miss 64 games last season. Love is becoming a notorious with injuries so I really wouldn't pick him in the top10, maybe a 10th pick if George, Irving, Curry, Westbrook, Batum and maybe even Ibaka. I'd have to really see Love play in the off-season.

    Westbrook is still pretty young and has been injury free/reliable before the playoffs so he is still easily top 5. He'll bounce right back up. I believe he is off the crutches for a while now too. Really not sure it is a bigger injury than Love, he is only projected to be in crutches for 4 weeks while Love already had a slew of injuries and this is WBs first that forced him miss games.

    As for Kobe, eh. People held on to Dirk, Rose, Love, etc.. for longer and all got burned. Kobe will still go early 2nd pick I think.
     
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    Completely forgot about Man George. damn should be a great season. looking forward to it
     


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    Neither Kaman nor Dwight fit D'Antoni's system, but if Kaman makes it onto the court at all, he'll give the Lakers more than Dwight did. Also, there's only room for one diva in that locker room and Kobe inherited the job as soon as Shaq left, so losing Dwight is addition by subtraction. If Kobe can be convinced that D'Antoni isn't a good fit, I predict D'Antoni won't last the whole season in LA and then Kaman can become that 12/10/2 guy he was before and the Lakers can contend.

    It's really D'Antoni who isn't a good fit for the Lakers' personnel, but I think Kobe's influence is keeping D'Antoni in the job. (You'd think that Mitch Kupchak might talk with D'Antoni, or Kobe, before he signs a player, to make sure the player can fit the system. It seems that nobody in the Lakers' front office is talking to each other.)
     
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  12. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Lakers planning to amnesty MWP, he could be a good addition to almost any team for a mil or two. Clips should put up a bid for him.

    CP3, Reddick, Dudley, Griffin, Jordan
    Collison, Crawford, Barnes, Hollins, ?MWP?


    Also, Cavs offer Bynum 2year deal for $24mil. I guess the Cavs doesn't really have much to lose?


     


  13. AldenPyle

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    Maybe (though showtime lakers were mostly drafted). I was thinking Lakers want to have enough cap space next summer for two max contracts plus a discounted Kobe. Could be hanging onto his contract for another year, gives them the most cap room.
     


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    Guess that kills the speculation that they were going to amnesty Kobe then resign him once he recovers.
     


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    Can the Lakers resign Kobe if they amnesty him? I thought there was a provision in the CBA that prevented that since you're essentially circumventing the salary cap by doing that.
     


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