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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    Where did he say it?

    I read a report that DWill had no idea and woke up not knowing anything was going on prior to the trade. It's weird, it seemed like they picked DWill over Jerry Sloan and then send him packing. I'm even more confused now if it was DWills fault Sloan retired and this is his punishment?


    it would be funny/sad if deron really ended up liking living in Utah because of the skiing, amazing nature, and nice white mormon people and end up living in New Jersey/Newark for 2 years.

    then again D-will is from texas right? Maybe he liked living in Utah.

    Welcome to Newark D-Will!

    Still - I hold out hope that the russian owner has a "handshake agreement" to sign him to a new CBA max extension so I can seriously look into buying a season tix package when they move to brooklyn.

    here's a scary thought for boston fans, what if they offered a straight up trade for D-will for rondo? Actually for the trade to work in the trade machine it would need Rondo + daniels + J. oneal

    I bet danny ainge pulls the trigger on that.
     
  2. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    People keep forgetting about the new CBA when grading these deals. I keep reading about how the Knicks could have just traded for DW and signed Anthony, but that is not a done deal, the cap space might not be there and there are other teams in the hunt.

    There are some truth to that but keep this in mind as well, Melo has said constantly he only wants to play in NY and that if he isn't traded he won't sign the extension and go to NY anyways. I would have risked that and if it doesn't go through, just gotten CP3 and Dwight int he next couple of years. To be honest those look like better fit than Melo anyways. Think of Dwight and Amare as the new twin towers with CP3 as the facilitator? Surround them with good to decent shooters (Gallo + 1 more shooter) that can defend well enough and you got a competitive team within a year or two.
     
  3. eddievddr10

    eddievddr10 Senior member

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    Where did he say it?

    I read a report that DWill had no idea and woke up not knowing anything was going on prior to the trade. It's weird, it seemed like they picked DWill over Jerry Sloan and then send him packing. I'm even more confused now if it was DWills fault Sloan retired and this is his punishment?


    http://twitter.com/CBSSports
     
  4. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Another trade, no as big as DWill though.

     
  5. foodguy

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    boy, they're really bailing out of the West, aren't they? i'm a big carl landry fan ... that guy gets more results out of his size and athletic ability than just about anybody.
     
  6. B Hamilton

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    it would be funny/sad if deron really ended up liking living in Utah because of the skiing, amazing nature, and nice white mormon people and end up living in New Jersey/Newark for 2 years.

    then again D-will is from texas right? Maybe he liked living in Utah.

    Welcome to Newark D-Will!

    Still - I hold out hope that the russian owner has a "handshake agreement" to sign him to a new CBA max extension so I can seriously look into buying a season tix package when they move to brooklyn.

    here's a scary thought for boston fans, what if they offered a straight up trade for D-will for rondo? Actually for the trade to work in the trade machine it would need Rondo + daniels + J. oneal

    I bet danny ainge pulls the trigger on that.


    I don't think they would touch Daniels or J. O'Neal for that matter. And Rondo is pretty untouchable right now for better or worse.
     
  7. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    I don't think they would touch Daniels or J. O'Neal for that matter. And Rondo is pretty untouchable right now for better or worse.


    both are expiring contracts though. so you'd get a comparable point guard and then almost 10M in cap relief with rondo's smaller contract and expiring contract.
     
  8. sonick

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    Phoenix Suns have traded pg Steve Nash to the Knicks for pg Chauncey Billups and a 2nd rd pick. Edit: nevermind, this is false.
     
  9. sho'nuff

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    Phoenix Suns have traded pg Steve Nash to the Knicks for pg Chauncey Billups and a 2nd rd pick.

    this is big^. i havent read this anywhere. if this is true, nyc is right up there with boston and miami.

    can you believe this?:
    amare
    carmelo
    nash
    crazy

    dayum what is going on around nba here??? what the hell?

    boozer/carmelo/jwill/nash/amare all to the East

    lakers all they have to do is kick dallas/okc/spurs butt and we home free for the finals !!
     
  10. sonick

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    My bad, friend was shitting with me.
     
  11. Ambulance Chaser

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    I have not seen any confirmation of the Nash trade on the web.
     
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    This just in:

    @clevelandcavaliers have traded their starting 5 for last night's CalTech Beavers starting 5!
     
  13. foodguy

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    go beavers! (please don't move to DT)
     
  14. NorCal

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    G. Wllace to PDX for filler and przbilla(sp?).
     
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    There are some truth to that but keep this in mind as well, Melo has said constantly he only wants to play in NY and that if he isn't traded he won't sign the extension and go to NY anyways. I would have risked that and if it doesn't go through, just gotten CP3 and Dwight int he next couple of years. To be honest those look like better fit than Melo anyways. Think of Dwight and Amare as the new twin towers with CP3 as the facilitator? Surround them with good to decent shooters (Gallo + 1 more shooter) that can defend well enough and you got a competitive team within a year or two.

    I think you misunderstand me.
    You say "just gotten CP3 and D12" like it's a done deal. People everywhere keep evaluating trades based on where a superstar said they might want to play some time in the future as though that is all it takes for them to go there. There is still a cap and I would bet dollars to donuts that the owners will try to take control back from the prima dona wannabe super stars.

    The Jazz just sort of did. D.Will wanted to dictate where he would go but they just said fuck you, we can and will trade you to fucking NJ, like it or not. I would bet that under the new CBA players will have a little less controll and ability to hold teams ransom.
     
  16. Brothersport

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    ^^ that Wallace --> Portland trade makes no sense; I do not understand why it exists.

    I have to imagine Prokhorov sitting in a huge chair petting a Siberian Tiger just continuously saying the Russian version of "MUAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!"
     
  17. RFX45

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    I think you misunderstand me.
    You say "just gotten CP3 and D12" like it's a done deal. People everywhere keep evaluating trades based on where a superstar said they might want to play some time in the future as though that is all it takes for them to go there. There is still a cap and I would bet dollars to donuts that the owners will try to take control back from the prima dona wannabe super stars.

    The Jazz just sort of did. D.Will wanted to dictate where he would go but they just said fuck you, we can and will trade you to fucking NJ, like it or not. I would bet that under the new CBA players will have a little less controll and ability to hold teams ransom.


    I never said it would have been a done deal, I said I would have waitedinstead. Ok, Melo doesn't sign next year, try and get CP3 and Dwight, CP3 doesn't sign then go for DWill, etc... There are some options there and much better at that. These teams wants to stop players from controlling them? This isn't a good start, forcing them to clean up their starting 5 for 1 guy.

    Seriously now, out of all that was traded, Chandler was the only one who was most likely leaving. If Melo signs with them, good, it worked out for their benefit and paying him less. Is he doesn't sign, look at the above scenario and they still have some talent in tact and would make their team deeper.

    Again, that is just how I would have played it. Melo wants to be in NY, I'd wait if I owned the Knicks. If it doesn't happen, I could live with it, I'd get someone else. The current team isn't blowing anyone away this season but it is a huge improvement for the past what, 10 years? I can wait another half a season to see who I could get instead of getting robbed.

    Teams can't control players when they are Free Agents unless a franchise tag passes on the new CBA. Yeah, it's not as simple as that but do you think this team will win this season? Melo and Amare will eat up most of the salary cap, if they had signed Melo next year then they might have more control over him. If Melo signs an extension, they will be left with very little money to add to the team. Amare can't take a pay cut anymore, Melo can but will he? CP3 almost guarrantees he'd go to NYK if the cap allows it, that one is for sure. He even said it on his toast during Melos wedding. Now that they might have to give Melo max cap, they have less of a chance getting CP3.
     
  18. NorCal

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    For some reason we're talking past each other. I agree with what you say here and I think waiting or offering up a shit platter would have been the proper way for the Knicks to play it.
    I guess everyone else thought so do until Dolan and Thomas got involved. As I said, failure starts at the top.


    I never said it would have been a done deal, I said I would have waitedinstead. Ok, Melo doesn't sign next year, try and get CP3 and Dwight, CP3 doesn't sign then go for DWill, etc... There are some options there and much better at that. These teams wants to stop players from controlling them? This isn't a good start, forcing them to clean up their starting 5 for 1 guy.

    Seriously now, out of all that was traded, Chandler was the only one who was most likely leaving. If Melo signs with them, good, it worked out for their benefit and paying him less. Is he doesn't sign, look at the above scenario and they still have some talent in tact and would make their team deeper.

    Again, that is just how I would have played it. Melo wants to be in NY, I'd wait if I owned the Knicks. If it doesn't happen, I could live with it, I'd get someone else. The current team isn't blowing anyone away this season but it is a huge improvement for the past what, 10 years? I can wait another half a season to see who I could get instead of getting robbed.

    Teams can't control players when they are Free Agents unless a franchise tag passes on the new CBA. Yeah, it's not as simple as that but do you think this team will win this season? Melo and Amare will eat up most of the salary cap, if they had signed Melo next year then they might have more control over him. If Melo signs an extension, they will be left with very little money to add to the team. Amare can't take a pay cut anymore, Melo can but will he? CP3 almost guarrantees he'd go to NYK if the cap allows it, that one is for sure. He even said it on his toast during Melos wedding. Now that they might have to give Melo max cap, they have less of a chance getting CP3.
     
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    nets made a better deal by miles. and carmelo might be the dumbest athlete i have ever heard speak.
     

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