NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

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  1. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff grrrrrrrr!!

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    Have you seen a psychiatrist lately? Great treatments now exist for delusions of grandeur.

    i promise to see a psychiatrist if i have to, in june.
     


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    i promise to see a psychiatrist if i have to, in june.

    i'm a laker fan, too, and i'm not ready to say the sky is falling. but i really, really doubt that anyone on the team is "OK" with the way they are playing. they may say -- correctly -- that all that really matters is playoffs, but not knowing who is going to show up every night has to be troubling.
     


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    just out of curiosity (i'm letting the cioppino base simmer), i looked up the laker records for comparable years ... after 48 games they are 33-15. last year at the same point they were 37-11 and the year before a smoking 39-9. You have to go back to the annus mirabilis of the pau trade where they were 31-17 ... the year they lost to the celtics in the playoffs.
    the last 3-peat in the kobe-shaq years, on the last year of the string they were 35-13, only 2 games better than this year, but in the middle year they were 32-16, actually a game worse.
    so it can be done, but there will be drama.
     


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    Stern set it up that way. [​IMG]
     


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    Its only the regular season, they have won multiple championships. They are bored. They will have a long playoff season to pull it back together. I am NOT a Lakers fan but this is a talented team that is still the one to beat. Way to early to panic


    I'm starting to think it's going to be a miracle if the Lakers win this season. They should of showed signs of life by now with this current squad. I hope I am wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised by an early playoff exit with this current team.
     


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    He is a great player. Not the offensive force he used to be but his defense and leading a team defense is outstanding. Celtics go nowhere without him.

    Lost somewhere in his ocean of trash talking, cowardly bullying bullshit is the fact that KG is still a pretty damn good player
     


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    Ditto for most of the top players in the league - including Kobe.


    OH, and not that we need reminding, but Kevin Garnett (while still [​IMG] effective vs. the Lakers) is still a massive cunt.

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    i'm a laker fan, too, and i'm not ready to say the sky is falling. but i really, really doubt that anyone on the team is "OK" with the way they are playing. they may say -- correctly -- that all that really matters is playoffs, but not knowing who is going to show up every night has to be troubling.
    i gave up on the celtics last year after about 10 games after the all star break. they fucking sucked. I still watched the games, but it was sad because they'd actually build up leads like 10-15pts in the 3rd quarter then just blow it. It happened around 20 times. Of course I got sucked back in when the fire was lit under their asses with the heat series and quentin richardson stupidly starting the fire, but I always knew that they could lose like that. So it was indicative of how game 7 of the finals happened. Played great, up by 13 in the 3rd, but ultimately shit the game away. Trends are trends. Even this years celtics suffer from the 4th Q meltdown in most of their losses. The lakers on the other hand had "team of destiny" all written all over it. all those last sec wins by kobe, those two miraculous playoff wins against the OKC and Suns. I'm just glad that I had other new england teams to cheer for, ultimately though they shit their seasons away too (bruins, NE, Red Sox) but at least I could spread out the shit thinner.
     


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    I agree with your 1st paragraph. After that......????

    If you are right, it shows up in the starters playing a lot of reduced minutes and odd lineups at crucial points in the game. But players don't tank because they don't want to show their stuff before a trade deadline. They may be bored and not giving it their all - conserving energy for what they feel will be another 5-6 months of basketball. I buy that. But I can't swallow that they don't try beacuse they are hiding how good they are before the trade deadline?



    i actually didnt think it was a big deal to lose to the celtics last night (it sucks when we lose of course) but it didnt make me any more concerned than i have to be.

    i think honestly, the lakers have the potential to tap into the playoff mode. this is the thing... i think the lakers coaching staff realize how stacked this year's playoff contenders are. and all the moving around and potential effects big players can have on moving like carmelo and the side effects, everything is revolved around how to beat the lakers. trust me, this is the truth. every single team out there has at least one thought about the lakers when making a move.

    so the february deadline is nearing. i dont think the lakers want to reveal how strong they are yet before that deadline. why? why show everyone their true potential and then have everybody try to adjust around it?
    that's more tiresome to tell you the truth for the lakers.

    i believe once everything settles down and all teams are set in concrete, you will see the Lakers emerge..im sure of it.
     


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    i gave up on the celtics last year after about 10 games after the all star break. they fucking sucked. I still watched the games, but it was sad because they'd actually build up leads like 10-15pts in the 3rd quarter then just blow it. It happened around 20 times.

    So it was indicative of how game 7 of the finals happened. Played great, up by 13 in the 3rd, but ultimately shit the game away. Trends are trends. Even this years celtics suffer from the 4th Q meltdown in most of their losses.

    The lakers on the other hand had "team of destiny" all written all over it. all those last sec wins by kobe, those two miraculous playoff wins against the OKC and Suns.


    uh, dude ... they went to Game 7 of the NBA Finals. imagine if you lived in sacramento. plus, the lakers had plenty of piss-away games last year, too. in fact, that might be a phil jackson hallmark ... i do think a lot of it comes from his position that you win in the regular season just enough games to get a good playoff position.
    and that said, the lakes are still no. 2 in the west. big question going for no. 1 is whether the spurs can hang on. i see them having one really bad stretch, but i think they'll pull out of it in time. whether they can continue that concentration for 18-21 playoff games is another matter entirely.
     


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    They were out of sync last year because KG was still not right from knee surgery and Pierce and allen were both hurt. They blew 4th quarter leads all year because the team lacked depth, especially dow low. Rasheed was a shell of a player his last year in Detroit. And did not do much for the Celtics. he averaged something like 6 points and only 3 rebounds per game in the playoffs last year. he was basically a jump shooter his last few years. The Celtics were toast last year when they lost Perkins. His backup was a 6'6"ish Glenn Davis. The Lakers were just too big for them.

    The Celtics won that game yesterday because Rondo had a spectacular 2nd half. The way he ran that team in the 2nd half was something else. He has been off since he came back from injury.
    They shot almost 70% because of the way he ran things. Most people see only the scoring and don't appreciate all the things that go into setting guys up and teams up. Now if the guy would only learn to shoot more along the lines of the way a Jason kidd worked on and improved his range, he would truly be in the running for best PG in the league.


    i gave up on the celtics last year after about 10 games after the all star break. they fucking sucked. I still watched the games, but it was sad because they'd actually build up leads like 10-15pts in the 3rd quarter then just blow it. It happened around 20 times.

    Of course I got sucked back in when the fire was lit under their asses with the heat series and quentin richardson stupidly starting the fire, but I always knew that they could lose like that.

    So it was indicative of how game 7 of the finals happened. Played great, up by 13 in the 3rd, but ultimately shit the game away. Trends are trends. Even this years celtics suffer from the 4th Q meltdown in most of their losses.

    The lakers on the other hand had "team of destiny" all written all over it. all those last sec wins by kobe, those two miraculous playoff wins against the OKC and Suns.

    I'm just glad that I had other new england teams to cheer for, ultimately though they shit their seasons away too (bruins, NE, Red Sox) but at least I could spread out the shit thinner.
     


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    The Celtics won that game yesterday because Rondo had a spectacular 2nd half. They shot almost 70% because of the way he ran things.
    rondo's a punk but a heckuva pg. still, i'd argue that the reason the celtics shot 70% yesterday was because the lakers were about 1 1/2 steps late on almost EVERY defensive rotation in the second half. they were running on artest legs. it was abysmal.
     


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    its revisionist history to think that though. they hobbled into the playoffs as a fucking 4 seed in a weak assed east. I was fully expecting them to be beat by the Cavs (who were poised) or even the Magic (who were dangerous).

    I like to think that Delonte West fucking Lebron's mom (if true) had more to the celtics beating the Cavs because Lebron just plain gave up after TORCHING the C's in game 3. Something big happened and Lebron shut down.

    The C's were lucky as hell to peak when they did last year. In a season of shitty loses (so many blown 4th Q leads) it was a trend that stayed true at the very end.

    The lakers on the other hand had so many great wins. a ton of last second wins (wether by fortune, (artest put back) or by Kobe being clutch) they had a "team of destiny" feel from the regular season already.

    uh, dude ... they went to Game 7 of the NBA Finals. imagine if you lived in sacramento. plus, the lakers had plenty of piss-away games last year, too. in fact, that might be a phil jackson hallmark ... i do think a lot of it comes from his position that you win in the regular season just enough games to get a good playoff position.
    and that said, the lakes are still no. 2 in the west. big question going for no. 1 is whether the spurs can hang on. i see them having one really bad stretch, but i think they'll pull out of it in time. whether they can continue that concentration for 18-21 playoff games is another matter entirely.
     


  14. guster

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    The Cavs lost because Lebron's shot stopped falling ang then they were just a team of guys standing around watching 1 guy try to play 1 against 5. (well not everyone was standing around watching Lebron, sounds like Delonte West was busy doing other things) That never wins championships and I don't care how talented Lebron is.


    its revisionist history to think that though. they hobbled into the playoffs as a fucking 4 seed in a weak assed east. I was fully expecting them to be beat by the Cavs (who were poised) or even the Magic (who were dangerous).

    I like to think that Delonte West fucking Lebron's mom (if true) had more to the celtics beating the Cavs because Lebron just plain gave up after TORCHING the C's in game 3. Something big happened and Lebron shut down.

    The C's were lucky as hell to peak when they did last year. In a season of shitty loses (so many blown 4th Q leads) it was a trend that stayed true at the very end.

    The lakers on the other hand had so many great wins. a ton of last second wins (wether by fortune, (artest put back) or by Kobe being clutch) they had a "team of destiny" feel from the regular season already.
     


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    The lakers on the other hand had so many great wins. a ton of last second wins (wether by fortune, (artest put back) or by Kobe being clutch) they had a "team of destiny" feel from the regular season already.
    i'm not going to argue too much because, well, they were the team of destiny, ultimately. but i do think perspective has a lot to do with it. as a guy who has watched almost every laker game in the last 8-9 years, there were PLENTY of blown games as well ... and a lot of th ose last-second wins should have been third-quarter blow-outs.
     


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