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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. BaldwinP

    BaldwinP Well-Known Member

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    The whole way you argue is the reason that statheads get a bad name in the NBA. All stats no watching the game. All advanced metrics have things they leave out.. If you put Ibaka instead of Bosh on the Heat, they would be worse. Defences don't have to respect Ibaka off the dribble. They respect his long-range shooting less because his shooting percentage is worse. (although Ibaka is certainly better at that now than he was in the 2012 Finals). Ibaka is not the passer that Bosh is (I'm sure I don't need to mention that raw assist numbers aren't all there is to passing, either). When Bosh's scoring ability is needed, it is there. Even when it isn't needed, it makes the game easier for Wade and James. Much like Ray Allen's 3 point shooting reputation keeps guys glued to him even when he's in a shooting slump.

    At some point stats have to meet the reality of what happens when the teams actually play each other.

    Wade's too old but Duncan and Ginobili aren't? Give me a break.

    Pretty sure Indiana would bite your hand off for a 7 foot 3-point shooter who grabbed one of the most critical offensive rebounds in NBA Finals history.

    Hate all you want, the Heat are in the Finals for the 4th year in a row. This time last year everyone was saying why the Spurs were going to kill the Heat too.
     
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  2. indesertum

    indesertum Well-Known Member

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    this is hilarious. you're literally no stats and no watching game. this is why trolls get a bad name in the NBA

    sure but when every single advanced stat shows you're an idiot then maybe just maybe as a collective they mean something

    complete conjecture and retarded hypothetical situation that makes no sense. heats are built around bosh but they could build around ibaka too and they'd be unbelievably lucky to have him

    i don't even know what you're trying to say here because it all sounds so stupid

    are you saying defenses don't respect ibaka's long range shooting because ibaka has a worse shooting percentage than bosh? cuz that's completely wrong this regular season or in the playoffs

    or are you saying ibaka's long range shooting is worse than his percentage off the dribble? cuz long range shooting is always worse than percentages off the dribble (i.e. the drive)


    you keep going on about how stats suck and film is better, but it's not like film is going to show oh ibaka's fgp is actually 25% and not 59% in the playoffs. you don't even show film so what's the point in calling out stats?

     
    oh really? so even if ibaka had better assist numbers it wouldn't matter because bosh is better anyways right?

    thunders don't use ibaka the same way the heats use bosh on offense. bosh gets his assists as a facilitator in the high post. thunder doesn't use ibaka like that. they already have 3 great playmakers

    uh no it's not

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    he's mostly relegated to being a role player and the vast majority of his shots are assisted (77% on 2 pointers and 96% on 3 pointers)

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    same thing in the playoffs


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    he rarely even plays isos (5% of the time). he posts up more than he plays iso and he's said he doesn't bang bodies anymore.


    your argument is total shit. is offense the only thing that matters to you? bosh might be a slightly better offensive player, but everybody knows that. ibaka is better because they're pretty close on offense but ibaka's contribution on defense is far beyond what bosh does


    who the fuck said duncan and ginobili aren't too old? is english your second language? he clearly said westbrook as in he's comparing wade to westbrook and wade is indeed a lot more banged up and older than westbrook is



    nobody's saying bosh is a bad player or nobody doesn't want him. the only thing being said is ibaka is better than bosh and he clearly is by any measure film or stat. every argument you come up is completely retarded, devoid of any proof, and no matter the contrary evidence you just keep trolling along

    bosh is a better PnR defender? bosh has better shooting percentages? championships are the only things that determine who's better?

    so fucking stupid
     
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  3. hendrix

    hendrix Well-Known Member

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    jesus, just say who you think is better. That's all that fucking matters. You don't have to justify anything.

    IMO

    Jerome Kaino*>Durant>Lebron>Westbrook.

    *would kill anyone at anything so I'm putting him here by default.
     
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  4. edinatlanta

    edinatlanta Well-Known Member

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    Heat in 6. LeBron kills it.
     
  5. SirGrotius

    SirGrotius Well-Known Member

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    Heat in 7. I think this will be a fantastic series, where you have the quintessential "Team" vs. a good team but really a competitor for GOAT. The latter wins it with a tear jerker in San Antonio.

    Random question, what happened to Greg Oden? Is he playing zero minutes? I thought he was contributing a solid 7-9 minutes off the bench during the reg season.
     
  6. edinatlanta

    edinatlanta Well-Known Member

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    I saw him driving his Rolls Royce a few weeks ago.
     
  7. Neo_Version 7

    Neo_Version 7 Well-Known Member

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    Here he is representing Heat fans everywhere


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  8. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Well-Known Member

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    So selling game 7 playoff tickets were sold way in advance is some sort of aberrational decision that indicates mental weakness on the part of Indy's organization?
     
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  9. Brothersport

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  10. lawyerdad

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    Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but is part of your argument here that Bosh is effective at breaking people down off the dribble?
     
  11. Texasmade

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    Heat take it in 7. Lebron is the best player on the court and there's more at stake for him in terms of NBA legacy with his Finals losses compared to Duncan.
     
  12. wojt

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    I take it he meant driving to the basket kinda of way
     
  13. AceBoogie

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    This series isn't going 7. Won't be as good as last years either.
     
  14. Neo_Version 7

    Neo_Version 7 Well-Known Member

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    Spurs in 3
     
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  15. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Well-Known Member

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    TWSS
     
  16. wojt

    wojt Well-Known Member

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    if that sissy boy Parker will be 90% or more
    then Spurs in 6
     
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  17. diadem

    diadem Well-Known Member

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    Manu the sniper.
     
  18. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

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    Haven't seen the Heat - especially Ray Allen - miss so many wide open 3's in the first half. Hope they can get it going after halftime
     
  19. texas_jack

    texas_jack Well-Known Member

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    Spurs in 6

    Tim Duncan is a God
     
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  20. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    Splitter next to get fined. :lol:




    Jesus still got hops! :slayer:
     
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