NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

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  1. jet

    jet Persian Bro

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  2. thinman

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    This may be the case, but Howard needs to man up and have a frank discussion with Kobe about how to turn the team around. The team's record is their responsibility, as the two best players.

    I disagree with the article FG posted. I think that Nash is good enough, and smart enough, to find a role for himself in almost any offense. Would he be playing MVP-level ball? No, those days are behind him, but he can still be an effective set-up man for Kobe, Howard, and Gasol in virtually any type of offense. Basketball isn't that complicated for a guy like Nash. The problem is a lack of communication between Kobe and Dwight, and perhaps the rest of the team as well. I really thought the Lakers just needed time to sort all this out, but it's looking less likely with every passing game.

    Although I'm not a Lakers fan, I AM a basketball fan and to see such talent going to waste is a sad thing to watch.
     
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    games like last nights Celtics vs Knicks are when I start to believe the NBA really is fixing games.

    - Marv Albert openly complained about crowd noise being channelled through the speakers of the stadium even boos.
    - i think they channeled the noise in to actually stifle any type of vicious organized chants towards Carmelo
    - its obvious there was a crack down on any "honey nut cheerios" types of chants, signs, or anything by security too.
    - both teams were weirdly non physical or anything. they clearly were warned before the game not to start anything .
    -Joe Crawford, Dick Bavetta, Marat Kogut refereed the game. Dick Bavetta is the usual ref called in to ref games where the higher ups want the game manipulated.
    - its like the kept the game purposely close to avoid any type of ruckus from the crowd or players. One team would go on a run then the refs would start calling fouls to let the other team catch up.

    I really hope when the new commissioner takes over he lets the game play out like it should. Maybe they'll start curtailing the superstar calls and open biases w/ refs and teams (like Crawford and the Spurs or Kennedy with the Celtics). I really hate to think I've been duped into watching a glorified form of professional wrestling.
     


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    This is spot fucking on. Bell was a brilliant defender. He was on the 2001 76ers team that went to the finals. Next season he left. Iverson never saw those last 7 games again.

    Who was on the Suns teams that had near misses? Raja Bell. He got fucked over by the league, deserves so much more credit than he has.


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  5. Steve B.

    Steve B. Go Spurs Go

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    Superstars will always get the calls because that's who people pay to see. If you want pure team basketball you gotta watch college. They seem to be cracking down on fast break traveling at least.
     


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    agree absolutely

    this was not my reading of the article. my impression was that the author was saying that jimmy buss had bought into the d'antoni system and using nash to run it. i think nash is an amazing, smart player and i have no doubt he could adapt to any system he is thrown into. but I don't think there's any way we're going to see the steve nash of five years ago. d'antoni may think he's adapted his system to the new personnel -- and they're certainly not running the 7 second offense -- but i don't think he's gone far enough. honestly, i think bickerstaff had the right idea -- you've got four of the most talented players in the game (and a fifth, metta, who is having his best season in many years). run the basic sets and let the talent shine through. the spread offense d'antoni wants to run would be perfect for a team with 2005 steve nash and a lot of athletic kids, enough of whom can hit 3s when offered. that's not the team he has today.
     


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    The Lake-Show was short bussed. He once said any drunk in a bar can as well as any scout. Then to prove his point he fired the scouting staff and hired a drunk from a bar to replace them. Dude is a fucking idiot.

    Imagine if he actually listened to basketball people, Rick Adleman would be coaching this team right now.
     
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    better caption?
    "What do you say we leave at halftime?"
     


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    Another thing about that Dougherty article above are those 2 series mentioned at the end. I believe him 100%.

    The Kings had that series won and the league wanted the Lakers in the finals.

    The Trailblazers also had LA beat in that series and the refs destabilized the Trailblazers into folding when leading big. Look at the # of FT's in those games. I just know those players knew it, I mean Pippen was on that team... he understood what was going on because he was on the winning side of that favoritism.

    Anyone who think the refs can't guarantee a winner is deluded. Just look at FT% vs FG% and accumulate the points. Even 20 or 30 point deficits are not insurmountable.

    Very interesting how the league provides the refs guidance on things to look for. That's the code for let X or Y win. Wish that book would get published, I'd love to read it.

    You watch this season: league wants a Durant Lebron rematch... you'll see what happens to the Clippers.
     
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    have you checked out CE? I think you, crane, furo and meister would be a match made in heaven.
     


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    That's hilarious on more levels than you can know :lol:
     


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    yeah, i know. the ignore list is strong in this one, huh? at least you chose the right ones!
     


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    Oh fuck ya. I could name a few more of those trolls. And on queue: someone thumbed up your post. Golly.
     
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    Ah, I think this is right, if you're saying that it's D'Antoni who is at fault for not adapting his system to his players (I read the article as primarily blaming Nash), but the players need to take some responsibility, too. The team has too much talent to be losing so much. So who is going to lead the team out of this funk, D'Antoni or Kobe? It sure isn't going to be Howard.
     
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