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Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    I once played rec league ball with a D3 player. He had just graduated and was his team's all-time leading scorer (power forward). He said the same thing as your nephew. He played with plenty of D1 guys and could score on most of them if he was in the blocks. The problem was, they did everything he did, but a little bit faster, so he couldn't easily get on the blocks and generally couldn't guard anyone. But no one in our league could touch him. Our game plan was to grab a rebound and then chuck it down court, assuming he would get there first and dunk. It pretty much worked, except when he grabbed the rebound himself.

    Re Oakley, I am surprised you didn't think he was strong. IIRC, he looked like a ton of bricks, though he wasn't especially cut. He usually placed second in the NBA's strongest man competition (behind Kevin Willis, but ahead of Malone). In other words, there were guys who were taller, but almost none who were stronger.
     


  2. RFX45

    RFX45 Stylish Dinosaur

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    They were just showing the Knicks vs. Rockets '94 Finals Game 7 and Oakley was definitely a bully on court. He was the "enforcer" and was there to grab rebounds and hurt people.
     


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    i am not now nor have i ever been anything that anyone would ever mistake for a basketball player. but when i was in college i was a big-time gym rat and as a sportswriter i covered the college team that included michael cooper (all together now: 'WOW FG IS REALLY OLD"). he was a good guy and used to hang around to talk after practice. one time we were messing around and he dared me to try to steal the ball from him. he dribbled right in front of me, not doing anything special, and left me swatting air like a grizzly after salmon. then he wanted to do the same to me. i swear, i don't think i ever got past one bounce. people just don't appreciate the level of play those guys are at. if you ever get the chance, sometime catch a live practice. it'll blow your mind.
     


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    ^ I appreciate that fact everytime I watch Wade and Lebron live. When they hit the open court it's absolutely unbelievable how fast they accelerate and get to the other side of the floor - while handling the ball at that

    Must have been the Indiana series where Ewing blew a pretty open layup to win game 7. That was a total shocker
     


  5. RFX45

    RFX45 Stylish Dinosaur

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    Also reminds of Jim Brown challenging Ali to box because he thinks he could take him. :lol:


     


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    Reminds me of my first courtside Clipper game, it was years ago when Alan Houston was still playing for NY. I was so excited and got there really early and he was doing his shooting drills and I swear to god the dude barely missed a jumper, doesn't matter where on the court, he may have gone 98 for 100. It is crazy how good these guys really are, it's on another level that you can't even imagine until you experience it first hand or be able to see it and grasp how difficult what these guys do.
     


  7. foodguy

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    the thing that always gets me is the action in the paint. you don't get it on tv, but those big guys are COLLIDING. when y ou hear the slaps and thuds, you appreciate just what it means to have a 6-11; 280-pound guy throw his full weight into y ou.
     


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    re the ali story: back in the old days when i was a sportswriter, i coverd the light heavyweight champ, bob foster, who had an interesting relationship with ali (these guys are never friends; sometimes they co-exist). when foster retired, he had a big party and ali came in for it. we went out drinking (hey there's another one! been drinking with Julia Child, the Clash and Muhammad Ali), and late at night foster started kind of aggressively wondering about whether he could have taken ali. they started shadowboxing. my god. i don't think they ever made contact, but these guys were swinging blurs that stopped inches short of the other guys face. i was sure there was going to be a homicide (which would have beenn a great story, of course!).
     


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    for all of Ali's greatness, how he treated Frazier was fucking unforgiveable and reprehensible. Total scumbag.
     


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    foodguy is so cool. i should switch careers to journalism and be born in the 1910s.
     


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    I remember Coop from the Magic-Lakers days, but I was a kid sitting indian style 5 feet from the TV. You must be mid 50's at least.





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    I think this is 3 factors. #1, these guys are much quicker than mortals. #2 they are bigger. #3 their speed of thought is higher.

    They are bigger and quicker and think faster which you just can't compete with. There are plenty of big dopes out there, but one that is fast and can think quick? That's very rare. It's why I always thought Kwame Brown was a dud, he can't think quick.

    For me its the speed of thought that separates US from the DIII from the NBA.

    I've also played a few times with HS prospects and DII or DIII college guys and what I kept getting caught out with was their ability to see a situation and react to it before you even move. It why whoever mentioned that guy getting the rebound and then the dunk happened. He just saw it before everyone else.

    IMO, Jason Kidd was the quickest thinker that I've ever seen play. Its why he was always a step ahead and still as an old ass man get steals and can even compete.

    I always wanted to see an average gym rat play in a game with an NBA team, then you'd really understand the difference.
     
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    dudes, i'm so old i worked with actual typesetters. i'm so old i worked at newspapers when they were regarded as licenses to print money.
    coop story: one of the great sports moments i'll never forget was when that little pissant danny ainge was in his freshman year at byu. he was just scorchingg the conference, burning everybody up. he came to unm and coop took him on as a personal project. it was amazing. it seemed like ainge spent the entire game with those long spidery arms wrapped all the way around him. hated byu. hated ainge. heaven.
     


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    Ainge was a pretty good athlete. He played pro baseball too I think. A lot of those Celtics guys, if you did not know who they were and played them in a pick up game, you'd probably think you could school them as they all looked like they really couldn't play (Ainge, D. Johnson, Parrish, McHale, Bird). Looked like a bunch of suburban dads.
     


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    A major league pitcher was once asked what he threw to get Ainge out. He replied, "strikes."
     


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    perhaps. but he was a whiny little bitch his whole career, too.
     


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