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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    Yeah, I wouldn't go THAT far.
     


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    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/...ght-howard-traded-ready-sign-lakers-extension

    In short D12 would resign with Lakers if traded. JUST FUCKING DO IT ALREADY :slayer:


    From RealGM.com:
    [quote RealGM.com]Howard has always been impressed with the Lakers’ winning tradition and intrigued with the off-court opportunities that come with playing in Los Angeles.

    Questions about Howard's role with the team, however, became an early concern for the three-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year. Howard has since moved on from those concerns and is confident he will be an integral part of a team that will have a chance to compete immediately for a championship, according to sources that spoke with RealGM.

    The Lakers are reportedly ready to make the trade, but first need assurance from Howard that he will commit to the team long-term. Sources say Howard is “excited” about the opportunity to play for the Lakers and will re-sign with the team when his contract expires at the end of the 2012-13 season.
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  3. thinman

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    IMO, this is the best analysis of the situation. Basketball is, first and foremost, a business. Jeremy Lin has every right to try to maximize his value during his playing career and if that means commanding the highest salary he can, then that's his prerogative. Likewise, it's Dolan's job to maximize earnings for the owners of the Knicks. If he doesn't think Jeremy Lin is a good investment, given what Lin has shown so far, he is free to let Lin walk to Houston.

    However, my assessment of Lin's value differs from Dolan's apparent opinion. Lin has not had enough great games to convince people that he will definitely become a star, but I think that based solely on what he has done, his potential as a player make it worth the risk of matching Houston's offer. Furthermore, the marketing opportunities (and not just in the Asian community, but the nationwide buzz he created around the Knicks) make the financial risk minimal. The article quoted above says that the three huge contracts already carried by the Knicks (Melo, Amare, and Chandler) make it financially imprudent to match Lin's offer. If that's the case, my approach would be to begin re-building the team by matching Houston's offer to Lin and, if Lin becomes a star in the next year or two, actively working to trade Melo and perhaps Amare and Chandler, too (It's no secret that I've never been a fan of Melo). If Lin fails, dump his contract in a trade sometime before or during year 3. Either way, the financial risk could be minimized.

    So it appears to me that Dolan let Lin walk out of sheer spite, which is a foolish and ultimately harmful way to do business. Dolan also should have muzzled his employees so they would not sent out word that the Knicks would match Houston's offer, since there was obviously a chance they would let Lin leave. The Knicks have needlessly created a PR issue and made it look like the franchise is disorganized and mismanaged.
     


  4. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The Knicks have been disorganized and mismanaged for years, and this episode is just another incident in a long line of failures.
    But that is only one way to look at it. You can also look at things from a broader perspective.
    Charles Dolan has built a huge and successful empire in Cablevision and he and his shareholders have something worth preserving. But he has a problem. He has an idiot son named Jim. The problem is that while Charles and you and I know that Jim is an idiot, Jim does not know this. Jim thinks Jim is a businessman like his father. Charles, being a good father wants to be kind to his idiot son and give him something to do. But Charles is kind, not stupid. He is not going to let his idiot son wreck Cablevision just because he loves him. Instead, he gives Jim MSG to play with, which Jim can screw up to his heart's content without causing too much damage to the real business. And that explains Isaiah Thomas and Carmello Anthony.
     
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    Dwight willing to resign with Lakers now lol ...
     


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    Its amazing how closely related the Dolan and Buss families are.
     


  7. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    Even MSG is very difficult to really mess up. The venue, the teams and the channel are such cash cows that even guitar jimmy would have to really work hard at truly destroying it.
     


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    Buss gets championships though... just saying. Any time you get to trade Kwame for Pau and get two chips got to mean good GM no matter how you look at it.
     


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    That was Kupchack. Just from a Father/Son, I ran this well/You took over and started fucking things up dynamic they are oddly similar.
     


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    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    I'd kill for a Melo for Pau trade.
     


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    Whoever the hell is running the show, the Lakers still won 5 chips in the past 13 years. The Knicks has made the playoffs once in the past 5 years? Which is weird because NY could usually buy their championships (ie: Yankees) but for some reason the Knicks just can't put it together.
     


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    Lakers would have gladly given the Knicks Walton for Melo.
     


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    Done. I'll send the paperwork over later today.
     


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    I'd actually enjoy seeing that experiment. I wonder how long it would take for Kobe to punch Melo.
     


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    Thanks for the back-story. I didn't know the familial/business relationships.


    Except Buss is apparently smart enough to hire good people, at least good enough to bring championships.


    Dream on, Ed.




    Interesting thought. At least Walton would do no harm.


    I'd give it 5 minutes.
     


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