Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.
I like this.
We agree on something- Boston is #1 goal for a loss.
The Spurs will win another chip before the Lakers do.
Go Spurs Go.
You can think that if you want but I am confident that, at least for the present, the owner of every other team in the league (which includes the "other teams" that you would rather have than the Heat) would trade all of his players for all of the Heat's players. In a heartbeat.
I wouldnt trade the Bulls lineup or the Thunder's for Miami. I believe both are better teams, even though OKC need a real PG.
But if the competition were around ball licking, hands down the Heat would be the best team in the league.
How can you think OKC needs "a real PG" and the Bulls don't?
Westbrook and Rose are the same type of shoot first player.
Ya, but Rose has a much higher Bball IQ.
Doesn't matter how high your basketball IQ is if you're sitting on the bench injured. When he does come back, I doubt he will be as good as before.
If I was an owner building for the future I would trade any team for the Heat except OKC.
This includes Chicago. They may be a deeper team than either of those two, but teams with 1 superstar or less rarely ever win the title.
sidebar - i watched an interview of skip bailess (sp?) with mark cuban, and s.a. smith with cuban. he pwned them both. it was awesome.
i dont think ive ever listened to bailess (sp?) before, but he has got to be the most annoying asshole in the world. i wanted to punch him in the mouth after about 3 seconds of hearing him.
If you were the Bulls' GM and turned down the opportunity to trade the Bulls roster for the Heat roster you would be fired.
As far as OKC I can understand a person believing its roster was better than the Heat's roster prior to the Finals but not after watching the Finals. As the Finals progressed, the Heat's defense made it more difficult for Durant to get the ball in his preferred spots. And, the Heat's double-teaming stifled Harden when he got the ball on the outside. Harden's offense was probably also hurt by the effort that he was required to exert on the defensive end. The Heat exposed the Thunder as less than a complete offensive team. The Thunder only got 5 double digit games from persons other than Durant and Westbrook in the series' five games. That is not very good. Conversely, during the series the Heat's offense improved. The Thunder just could not deal with LeBron's playmaking from the block. And, unlike the Thunder, the Heat's role players were able to score. The Heat got 12 double digit games from persons other than James and Wade. As good a scorer as Durant is he is nowhere near the complete player that James is.
At the present, the Heat is a better team than the Thunder. Even a blind man can see that.
I guess we really have to qualify players to be considered Superstar, as in the tier 1 of players you would start a franchise with like Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, etc...
Kobe won championships and I am not sure I'd categorize Pau as a Superstar. A legit All-Star like Bosh but I'm just not 100% sure on Superstar status.
The 2004 Pistons championship team for sure won w/o a legit Superstar, no arguments there.
The Spurs really only had Duncan as it's Superstar as well, Parker wasn't in his peak in the first 3 titles and I am not sure he is a Superstar right now? Maybe he is considered a Superstar now that the Spurs is his team and not Duncans anymore? Robinson was on his way out too in his title runs with the Spurs.
Heck the Mavs only had Dirk last year as a Superstar.
In the past decade, I think the Heat is the only team that has won with 2 legit Superstars (tier 1) and 1 All-Star (tier 2) players all in their prime.
Ok, I might have been a little too loose with the term superstar there. I mean teams without a fantastic 2nd banana rarely ever win.
And since the Jordan era ended, the only two teams I'd classify as such are last year's Mavs and the 04 Pistons. You can argue that Chandler is a legitimate 2nd banana, but I'd say nay. And the 04 Pistons are really an anomaly.
As for Chicago's case, I'd say Deng is at best a 3rd banana.
I really wouldn't rate Chandler 3rd tier, he's a defensive specialist and that is pretty much it. He doesn't have much post move either.
For the Bulls, I'd say Noah is a good tier 2-3 player too, he just gobbles up rebounds and can actually score when needed (has decent jumpshot and can hustle, just not a solid post up move but better than Chandler). Just a solid double-double guy, he likely surpassed Boozer in ranking too, which is another tier 3-4 player. They have a good mix in Chicago and I really, truly believe they could have gotten far w/ him healthy.
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