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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Left Hand

    Left Hand Senior member

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    I think that's part of what amazes me about him - he doesn't even look like an athlete.
     
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    Lakers imploding again.
     
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    this has got to be the ultimate statement about Dwight Howard's complete and utter lack of a spine. He let his former team drop 40 on them in the final quarter. A team, by the way, that had NO business being anywhere close to winning that game. What a fucking joke.
     
  5. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    LOLLakers.

    I'm thinking around halfway through the season you'll start hearing calls for D'Antoni's head.

    Andray Blatche has quielty had two big games for Brooklyn. I doubt anyone even knows who the hell he is but he can play and can turn into a beast in the middle with the proper coaching/team.

    Oh, and by the way, the KNICKS have been busy WINNING!!!! yeah, soft schedule, I know, they all count in the win column the same.
     
  6. RFX45

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    Knicks and Memphis are definitely the surprise teams of the year so far, I mean we knew Memphis was going to be a playoff team but to be winning this much was definitely unexpected. Knicks is a complete surprise, I guess JR and Melo straightening up has put the teams cancer to sleep.


    Lakers are just disappointing, didn't see last nights game but they were up in the first half and looks like just got destroyed for some reason. Just terrible especially after such a huge win with Jamison and Meeks showing but they really need to be consistent. They can't just have decent to good games once every 3-5 games.

    At least Clippers are back on track for the meantime so it's good to see one LA team win instead of both.
     
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    I dont think Memphis is a surprise at all. In fact, I commented last season that it wouldnt be a surprise to see them in the conf finals. With Z Randolph back, this is a formidable team.
     
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    Really, you expected them to be the #1 team in the league right now? I call BS to anyone who says that they predicted that.

    Read what I wrote, I expected them to be a playoff team but to be the team with the best record at any point in the season, I never would have guessed that.

    And you really predicted how good Memphis will be and that they will be in the conference finals after losing to the Clippers in the first round last year? :lol:
     
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    My words were "don't be surprised if you are looking at a conference finalist". So while they lost to LA, the general point I made was this is a damn good, underrated team. Now they have come around. Claiming a bit of vindication, thank you.

    You seem a bit tense when your LOLakers flounce like they did last night. Relax. You have D Howard.
     
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    I thought last season was kind of a step back for the Grizz, but with Z-Bo at less than 100% in the playoffs it's not that surprising. They match up so well at pretty much every position (with Conley probably the most underrated of the bunch). As a Spurs fan they're probably the one team that really makes me nervous out West
     
  11. RFX45

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    Nah, that's how I am all the time. You just make too much bold claims so don't get mad if you get called out on it.

    Memphis isn't underrated, they pushed OKC to the limit 2 years ago int he playoffs but you to say you aren't a surprised team to have the best record int he league is ridiculous, everyone that analyzes sports is shocked at this current outcome and you are not? Especially after they lost to the Clips? I said it already, the are a playoff team no doubt and they aren't being rated lower than expected at that point in the beginning of the season but don't say BS that it isn't a surprise they are in first place unless you are a diehard Memphis fan, which I am sure you aren't.


    And then to use the Lakers losing as an excuse to call you out? Really? How original! As if we are not used to them losing? But wait! That will open up a can of worms how Lakers doesn't have much losing seasons and that we shouldn't feel bad as a fan when they lose because they will win again.

    Just stop it, no one is tense, Lakers lose all the time, they've been losing all season long so save your Laker hater jabs when they get eliminated in the playoffs or if they miss the playoffs altogether, I am sure a bunch of unknown trolls will be flooding the thread.
     
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  12. edmorel

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    I have not watched the Lakers play but when I look at their roster, they seem to me to be a better version of the champsionship Bulls teams. I don't know if D'Antoni is running "showtime" but wiith that team, you have an advantage at almost every position (except PG now) so I would be playing pounding the ball, half court sets. In Kobe you have someone that can bail you out when plays break down but they should be coming down, Howard, Gasol, Kobe, posting on dudes and just putting the hurt on them. I see that Gasol has sat the last two end of games (and I read he's a bit hurt) but to me, that is a failure of the coach and not of the player. Its one thnig is they were winning and playing significantly better with Gasol out, then you can say they guy needs to adjust but when he is sucking and you are losing, maybe you need to go back to the drawing board as a coach.

    The Knicks have definitely benefitted from a weak schedule but anyone who has watched them has to agree that they are a top 4-5 team in the league at this point. They are undoubtedly a better team than last year and I think their current lineup creates more problems for Miami than the other way around but its still early and there is still the issue of getting Amar'e back in the lineup and the issue of 80+ games on the oldest team in the league. The very big surprise for me has been Wallace, last year when Chandler/Melo went out, the Knicks would not know where to get their offense from and the defense suffered. With Wallace, he is a better shot blocker than Chandler, can play the 4 or the 5 and offensively, he can shoot from outside or post up very effectively. Sometimes woodson puts him in at the PF, Melo at SF and Chandler at C and that is a pretty formidable frontline. Felton's play also can not be talked about enough, he went from being overweight in Portland to having a career year.

    Lakers seem to have a similar problem to NY though, when Melo/Kobe score 30+, the chances of winning the game seem to decrease.
     
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    Pau isn't really as hurt as some expects, DAntoni just prefer Jamison to stretch the floor and in his plays, he prefers having a shooter behind the arc on the side than two big men running down the lane. So Pau has been relegated to play with the bench players because DAntoni find that his playmaking skills as a big is better suited that way since Kobe and Dwight already gets majority of the touches in the starting line-up. Hopefully this all change when Nash returns so who knows.

    Pau is on teh soft side, very sensitive almost Odom-like so I wouldn't be surprised if being benched affected him mentally. Not to mention that he is always rumored to be on the trading block every year.

    Sucks that they couldn't keep Sessions, dude is beasting right now as a bench player and could be starting now that Nash is hurt. Probably didn't get along with Kobe.


    And also, Amare. I am curious if the team will improve with him in the line-up, it seems like having both Amare and Melo in the line-up at the same time is bad for this team. Remember last year when Linsanity occurred and it was just him and when Amare returned they still played well? Then Melo returned and it was pretty much headed down from there on out? I think Knicks' line-up is pretty good right now, even surprised at FatFeltons play and Brewer was a steal, he is one of the reason Bulls' defense were so good and they were winning w/o Rose but now that he is gone (along with Asik), the Bulls can barely get a win.
     
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    Believe me, I will be saving my Lakers jabs for the playoffs. You should have come back with the rampant suck of my fantasy team, I would have had no response.

    Re Memphis, no man, I am genuinely not surprised. I mean it. If I were, I would say it. That team plays with a great sync. Great on both ends. Gasol and Randolph are probably the best front court in the league at the moment.
     
  15. edmorel

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    Amare needs to be the focus and needs an unclogged frontcourt in order to do well, he would play well on the second unit with Novak, Smith, Wallace if he wants to. The question is how does a guy that has been an All Star and makes about $25 million a year take to playing second fiddle and 20-25 minutes a game.

    Speaking of Lin, I know I am a fanboi so take what I say with a grain of salt but I've seen a few Houston games and I don't understand what they are doing. He basically brings the ball up court and as soon as he crosses the halfcourt line, the ball goes immediately to Harden or someone else. Then Lin becomes the wing man (perched by the 3 point line) and Harden becomes the playmaker and typically gets a double team coming at him :confused:. Lin is not a good enough shooter where he is going to stretch the D that much and it seems like a lot of work having Harden handle the ball, make a play for himself or someone else, especially when he is facing double teams. Harden, I think, would benefit from being a reggie miller type half court player, running through various screens to get an open 3 or getting in a one on one where he can take the ball to the basket strong as he likes to do. Lin's skillset is to drive the ball and get an open shot for a teammate or a finish around the basket. Harden is going to get his points no matter what but I think the team will be better off having the ball stay in Lin's hands as much as possible and putting the onus on him to get the ball to open teammates through screen/rolls etc. I didin't see much of OKC when Harden played but on Houston, Harden is working really hard to get his shots and taking a beating.
     
  16. RFX45

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    Nah, fantasy league is a different story. I am not doing so well in that so why would crap on someone else's team?

    To be honest, it is just hard to believe what you are saying because not only is Zach coming back from an injury (no one even knew how healthy he was at the beginning of this season) but they also came from a bad loss in the first round last year. Allen, their key defensive stopper, was also hurt iirc. That just isn't a team you would expect or even think about being #1 in the league the next season. It just doesn't make sense to me unless you are a die hard Memphis fan.

    Anyways, on another note, I am surprised at the Nets too. They kind of sucked the first couple of games but they have meshed well and Lopez is actually playing well. Atlanta is a surprising defensive team as well, not sure exactly why they are behind the Bucks even though they have more wins, it's the division thing I know but I'd still be pissed if it affects the playoffs spot since they should be in the 4th place and have the homecourt advantage. I guess it's still too early to be thinking of that.
     
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    ^^ Also a surprise is Golden State, #4 in the west right now
     
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    Game was sloppy as fuck on both ends I don't know wtf is going on, me and homegirl watched the entire game she was getting annoyed.
     
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    Mike D shitting it up in LA. Lakers are not a run and gun team something that was obvious to . . . everybody.
    That squad should be playing grindy basket-ball and straight shitting on dudes 101-87.

    In other news. GSW actually looking like a team. Barnes has been a beast at SF and Lee has been a double double machine.
     
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    i'm not as concerned about the laker offense as i am the defense. and that's mainly cohesion. watch after almost every easy basket and you'll see players looking at each other like "i thought you were stepping up there". i think a big part of it is howard still being a step or two slow coming back. its exaggerated because their defensive scheme right now seems to be to funnel everything toward him. offensively, they're coming along OK. d'antoni isn't doing seven seconds or less, but he is expecting them to push the tempo. and when you've got two seven-footers who can run the floor, kobe bryant and (eventually, inshallah) steve nash, that seems like a reasonable thing to do.
     

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