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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. thinman

    thinman Senior member

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    I like Iggy's athleticism, but he has giant holes in his game. Nonetheless, you are right that Denver improved their team's outlook (I posted earlier without considering the contracts that Denver shed).


    I like Duhon better than Blake. Duhon isn't the shooter that Blake is, but his all-around game, including defense, passing, and athleticism, are better. So I think Duhon is an excellent pick-up for the Lakers.
     
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  2. foodguy

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    ftfy
    2012: 37% FG, 33% 3pt.
    2011: 36% FG, 38% 3pt.
    keep waiting for him to regain his stroke ... and waiting ... and waiting.
     
  3. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    what holes does iggy have? i genuinely think he's a fantastic player and think the nuggets made a pretty good deal. afflalo sucked for most of 11-12 and harrington is great but not really
     
  4. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I think Iggy can be inconsistent. He is a possible triple-double every night but he is more of a baby-baby Lebron these days and his scoring has gone way down considering the Sixers didn't really add much scoring in the past couple of season to take shot attempts away from him. He'll likely excel in Denver but I am not sure by how much. Denver also still have Chandler and Gallo so they might be battling for position. Line-up isn't looking bad for them though.

    Lawson/Miller
    Iggy/Brewer
    Gallo/Chandler
    Faried
    McGee/Mozgov
     
  5. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    not bad is an understatement. looking forward to next season

    i call lakers vs okc in the west miami vs nets in the east. which is like a duh captain obvious type call
     
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  6. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I'm not sold on the Nets yet, I'd still take Boston and Chicago over them (and I hate Boston).

    As for the West, I like the Clippers over Denver right now, not just because I am a Clippers fan but I just think they have built a solid team this off-season.

    Cp3/Billups/Bledsoe
    Butler/Crawford
    Hill/Green
    Griffin/Odom
    Jordan/Hollins/Turiaf

    I almost feel bad for the Clips team with the Lakers likely overshadowing them and might cause CP3 to leave. I really with Del Negro was replaced though.
     
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  7. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I agree about the west, although wouldn't be surprised if OKC does not make the finals as they have not gotten any better in the offseason. Agree about Miami but the Nets, if anyone can take five solid players and make them look like a college team, it is the Nets. The franchise has a knack for being disfunctional, both in the front office and on the court. Things seem to have changed going into next season but I stil need to see them perform for at least half a season before I declare them anything more than, well, the Nets.
     
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    RFX45 Senior member

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    OKC doesn't really need to get that much better to win a chip, they just need to stay healthy really. The line-up is so young and athletic and they just keep improving. The core of the team was in the Olympics too (Durant, Westbrook, Harden & Ibaka) so that is extra experience and motivation for them going forward. They have improved every year and takes a step forward as they go on so I think they will be fine w/o much roster improvement.
     
  9. Rambo

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    Lakers vs. Heat in the finals. Lakers in 6.
     
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  10. indesertum

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    i guess. i dont think celts will go that far, but chicago could be legit depending on how rose is when he gets back. i still dont understand how the bulls blew up when they were doing so well without him but i only watched 1 game

    the nets i guess are unproven and their bench really sucks. will be interesting for sure tho.
     
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  11. edmorel

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    I disagree, I am going to posit that they have peaked as a team. I think young teams keep improving up to a point, and then you need some veteran leadership, both in players and coaches, to get to that next level. Also, I don't think OKC wins a chip with Russell Westbrook as the team's leading shot taker. So, I see them being a very good 50+ win team that doesn't get over the hump in their current incarnation.
     
  12. indesertum

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    i'm with rfx i think okc will get even better. they're going to work hard in the offseason like lebron buckled down last offseason after the loss to the mavericks

    they're kinda of like an all shooting team with little post presence vs the lakers which has players that fit the more classic roles. i hope okc plays a princeton style offense. it could work pretty well for them even if they dont have a great passing center type center. not so sure it makes sense for the lakers.
     
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  13. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    And by the way, the Lakers have what is arguably the best team in the league, on paper. As a friend of mine likes to say, there is only one ball. Kobe is probably one of the top 4-5 players to ever play the game but he has had issues before with star teammates (Shaq) and at the end of the day, anything can happen as Dwight has now shown that he can be as big a baby as anyone. If they decide that they will each sacrifice a bit of their game for the team and do not get injured (particularly Nash and Howard), they will be dominant.
     
  14. indesertum

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    well kobe did mention moving to a princeton offense so that he wont have to do so many isolation plays. also imo the respect he has for nash makes me feel he'd be willing to share the ball a lot more than last season. imo he didnt have that much respect for his teammates last season. also the issues with shaq happened when he was a lot lot more immature. i think they'll be pretty dominant



    fuuuuuu can't wait for this shit to start
     
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  15. RFX45

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    I wouldn't say they peaked just yet, I mean look at OKCs record the past few years. In 09-10 they made the 1st round of the playoffs, 10-11 they made the Western Finals and 11/12 they made the NBA Finals. I'd give them a year or two more and if they are still unable to win it all then I say they peaked. Durant & Westbrook are still 23, Harden & Ibaka are 24. Those guys are far from their peaks in their career. And believe it or not, Westbrook has improved the past few years. He has made better shot selection this year than the previous, Harden has become very solid in the 4th and Ibaka will likely be DPOY next year (he was robed this year). These core can make a couple more years of runs before making any major moves.
     
  16. Rambo

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    Kobe is going to be the happiest he's ever been in the league. He's never played with a half way decent point guard, never. Neither has Gasol. The two of them are going to be like pigs in shit.
     
  17. foodguy

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    i'm a big kobe fan, admittedly, and i think one thing that gets lost in all the ballhog bashing is that he's always been in the position of having to be both the shooting guard and the point. Like what was he going to do: let Smush Parker, Jordan Farmar or (blessed be his name) Derek Fisher handle the ball and create? i'm with rambro: this is going to be a real kick for kobe and pau. and i think doubly for pau because he's got someone who can be a consistent rebounder alongside him. when bynum was good, he was very good, but he often elects not to be.
     
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    ftfy
     
  19. LawrenceMD

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    nah way man... this is like when there's a hot girl who's only had assholes for boyfriends finally gets a decent/normal guy to go out with her.... and she doesn't know how to deal with having a normal (non mentally abusive) relationship thats going great... so she finds a way to self sabotage it. :devil:

    i'm curious how kobe is going to deal with howard (when howard starts doing "howard things" like smiling/not caring after missing free throws losing games in general).

    the biggest winner in this trade is pau gasol. he knows how to play perfectly in a point guard centric offense (as evidenced by his national team exploits).

    nash will has some really funky game lines this year - something like 8pts 14assist.

    the thing i'm afraid of for nash is injuries - if you've watched the suns play from 2010 onward you'll see that nash actually plays something like 30min where they rest him heavily (he sometimes sits out half of the 2nd quarter and even the first 5min of the 4th quarter). this means the lakers back up needs to be competent. also what system will they need to go to when nash is out? will they switch from a pick and roll back to the triangle? there's a ton of stuff to figure out.

    also we saw what happened to amare after his back issues (same type of herniated disk syndromes as well as similar surgeries) howard really will need to rely on footwork and avoid the pittfalls of overuse injuries (like subsequent hamstring/back spasms/knee issues/abdominal) that come out with compensating for a weak back following surgery.
     
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  20. gettoasty

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    I'll call it Heat in game 7
     

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