NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    who even advocates this

    totally ignorant
     


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    If the knicks were 100% I'd gladly bet on them beating the bulls. Bulls are an easy team to get out of their comfort zone in a playoff series.
     


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    I meant he can't create his final shot. Dude is a beast but all i've seen him do in his clutch shots are set shots. Nothing like Durant or Kobe where they can create they're shots on the fly. I'm just saying it by what I see.
     


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    Despite all of that, you would let anyone else in the Laker team right now take the final shot?

    For the most part, you really can't blame Kobe. When it comes to crunch time, especially before Gasol got there, everyone looks for Kobe and passes it to him and the other 4 just watches. They don't run around to get open or cut to the basket. Like you said, Kobe can pass it when it presents itself or when he sees someone open like Fisher or iirc Ariza a few years back but most of the time, they just watch him double teamed or not.

    Again, would you rather Kobe take the shot or be like Lebron and pass it?
     


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    HRoi Senior member

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    yes, see aforementioned Paul, Chris. Steve Nash is also someone who can do this.

    im too lazy to research this, but what is the "highly contested shot" shooting percentage of Kobe and the other players with a "big shot" reputation? and what is that compared to the wide open shot percentage of people like Matt Barnes or Steve Blake? this is not a rhetorical question - i'm really interested in the answer to this.

    the great thing about CP3 and Nash is that they are both 50% shooters on close-to-midrange shots that they are usually able to free themselves up to take. but what makes them absolutely deadly is that they can make the defense react in such a way that if they pass, the shot they create for their teammate is not only wide open, but often rolling to the basket for an easy shot
     
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    RFX45 Senior member

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    CP3 seems to be up and down lately. He is a good decision maker (still the best PG right now?) but damn he couldn't pull out a win with those close games in the past months. He just looked frustrated and less determined for some reason, I say he's been about 50/50 when it comes to being clutch for the Clips.

    And today, I'd still pick Kobe over Nash to be clutch. Seems like he lost some of that scoring tenacity this year. Maybe due to the age and all the injuries?
     


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    indesertum Senior member

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    ^+1. too lazy to look up stats.


    nothing wrong with sets. you want to create the most optimal shot to win games. the only time you would want somebody creating their own shot is if the team plays very badly and the coach doesn't do his job properly in calling the right sets or training the team for the right sets. really a player creating his own shots should be limited to a vast minority of the time when there is no other option.


    this is true. yeah i guess it's kind of everybody's fault. kobe for taking it and people (players and coaches) just giving it to him. it's a downward spiral.

    and no. right now kobe is the only one. which is bad news for the lakers. any smart team would double up on him and look to rotate quickly.

    and lebron is awesome, but damn dude is so soft a marshmellow could scratch him
     
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    Definitely nothing wrong with set plays as long as he makes it but the scoring options widens when you pass it to a player who can create a shot on the fly if the play doesn't go as planned.
     


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    Damn, I thought the Thunder was going to take the #1 spot because the Bulls lost again but they couldn't pull out a win against Memphis tonight.


    And I still don't get how fucking good Popovich is at making the best out of his roster. Another 7 game winning streak right now. They are right there in the mix with OKC, Bulls and Heat for the top spot.
     
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    I'M IN MIAMI, BITCH


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    Granger just called out Novak...

    PUT IN NOVAK RIGHT NOW!

    :cloud: These refs
     
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    Bynum fined by team for unnamed infractions. Big deal or nothing to worry about?
     


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    It's cuz he missed a meeting with Kupchak. I guess he must have dismissed it completely to be fined for it.
     


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    I'm not too sure about this. It seems that once Bynum's realized that he won't breakdown and/or be traded it's time for him to act like a cunt.

    It can really go either way, I think.
     


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