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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. indesertum

    indesertum Well-Known Member

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    i just want chris paul to have a ring before his contract runs out. i hope clips make good trades in the off season and fire vinny del negro. clips winning a ring would be friggin awesome
     
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    I agree, but I wouldnt be surprised if they made it to the conf final.
     
  3. indesertum

    indesertum Well-Known Member

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    i honestly would be surprised if they made it that far. i could see it happening tho
     
  4. moffy

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    The playoffs are all about matchups. If Memphis played Dallas in the first round last year instead of the Spurs, we might be talking about the Spurs as defending champs instead. Who knows.

    All I know is Memphis matches up well with everyone in the west other than maybe the Lakers, since their size advantage would be offset. I definitely wouldn't be surprised to see them in the conference finals.
     
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    so few people seem to understand this :confused:
     
  6. RFX45

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    Match ups matter but it isn't all about that. The Lakes has no match in size but they lost to Dallas last year and who their bigs? Chandler and Dirk? Lakers finally plugged the hole in their rotation by getting Sessions yet they continue to lose. So no, it isn't all about match-ups, if it is, the Lakers with Kobe, healthy Bynum, Pau, MWP and Sessions should be undefeated because you really can't match that much offense and defense. Bulls wouldn't be winning so much either if it's all about match-ups.
     
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    :confused:

    lakers lost because they could not match up with Dirk offensively and Chandler defensively, you just say that yourself. I do expect the Lakers to go far in the playoffs for the reasons you just mentioned and I don't expect the Bulls to go far for the same reasons. The regular season does not matter a whole lot in the playoffs.
     
  8. moffy

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    The Lakers didn't really have a matchup advantage last year against Dallas. Dirk and Chandler had enough size (we're talking two 7 footers here) to matchup against Bynum and Gasol. And don't forget that Bynum was nowhere near the offensive force he is this year and Pau was going through a miserable slump.

    If anything, Dallas had the advantage because the Lakers were one of the worst teams in giving up 3 pointers last year and Dallas shot the lights out on them.

    And the regular season is a whole other beast than the playoffs. Matchups don't matter as much because teams have less time to prepare and need to rest their guys more. The Lakers aren't undefeated because the other 5 guys they play everyday stink. That doesn't matter as much in the playoffs because the game slows down and the bench shortens.

    And the regular season is perfect environment for the Bulls. They are super deep and play consistently great defense. That wins you games in the regular season. But come the playoffs, they're not going to make it passed the conference finals because all Miami needs to do is stop Rose. And Miami just so happens to have two of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

    Chicago = LeBron era Cleveland.
     
  9. RFX45

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    You guys are looking at it on one side on the Dallas/Laker series. Lakers should be dominant on offense when it comes to bigs. Bynum and Pau are both offensively capable while Dirk is the only one who cans core consistently than Chandler. Did the Lakers big take advantage? Nope!

    On defense, Pau defended Dirk like crap but Bynum should be able to dominate in the paint defensively as Chandler. Was he? Nope!. Pua is a good defender too but did he had lapses on leaving Dirk open? Many times.

    On hindsight, it's easy to say Dallas had the advantage but before that series, everyone was picking the Lakers and your crazy if you predicted Dallas would go all the way before that. The team imploded for some reason, Pau got extra soft and Bynum acted like an idiot but seriously, look at the match-ups on paper, the Laker should have been an overwhelming winner of the two.

    In the Finals, did Lebron, Wade and Bosh really had a match in Dallas? Not really. Lebron choked and Wade has to carry the team by himself so they failed. Roster-wise, you can't even say Dallas is very deep, they pretty much compressed they roster to 8-9 guys in the playoffs.

    Again, think about the match-ups w/o knowing the outcome and you'd see that it isn't all about that. Again, how many predicted Dallas the chip last year even when the playoff started? Practically no one.
     
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    well, at the end of the day sports are unpredictable, if it was easy to pick winners I'd be retired. All you can do is play the percentages/matchups/experience etc. When I look at those things, I like the Spurs or Lakers out West. The East is more open and you can get Boston, Miami or even Indiana coming out on top. Obviously Chicago is a good team but I just don't see why so many people pick them to go all the way, they match up badly versus pretty much any team they would face and a 5-7 game series is very tough to win with one legitimate prime time scorer, even Jordan needed Pippen and a front line to win it all.
     
  11. moffy

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    I'm not saying that the matchups %100 determine the outcome. If a team implodes or its best player chokes, the matchups aren't going to matter. But the matchups play a very big role in the outcome. See Spurs-Memphis last year, Orlando-Cleveland a few years ago, Dallas-Golden State before that.

    Most series don't have one-sided matchup advantages. But when they do, it matters.
     
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    Funny Thread on 94 Knicks vs. current Knicks. Check out this quote from "Metrocard" on why Jeremy Lin was better than Derek harper: "Lin would of been the most strongest and athletic PG's in the 90's"

    I loved the defense-oriented Knicks of the 90s. They went through stretches where it looked like they could hold a team to 10 points a half. And then Jordan walked the ball up the floor and you saw what happened the immovable object encountered an irresistible force. ( :( The force won)
     
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    if Charles Smith had only dunked the putback rather than play volleyball with it....................
     
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    And like I clearly said, it does matter but isn't what it is all about as you guys first stated it being all about the match-ups. But again, look at the Lakers/Dallas series, everyone believed the Lakers are a better match up for Dallas. I already explained it, Dirk has range/scoring and Chandler has the defense but Bynum and Pau and can defend and score. Pau can even spread the floor too, not as much as Dirk but he has some range. The match up odds were on the Lakers side on that one and everyone thought so too until the Lakers imploded. Not to discredit Dallas but Lakers really was just horrible in that series. Again, match ups matter but it isn't all about it. Yeah sports is unpredictable but the argument you guys have like you knew Dallas had the match-up advantage over the big are ridiculous. If Dallas lost that series, none of you guys would be saying that at all.
     
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  15. dopey

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    The day NY basketball died.

    Watch this and cry all over again:


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    i want the Clippers to win the title the year after Donald Sterling dies or sells the team
     
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    Go Nuggets. Go Manimal.

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    Springssssssss
     
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    what is up with kenneth faried lately. been beasting hard. that was like his first double double in a month too
     
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    Him and Greg Stiemsma over in Bostonland. Damn, Celtics looks good against Miami. Convincing win. Garnett at center, I have been saying that for fucking years.
     
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    (-Nene) + Mcgee = more PT for Faried.
     

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