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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    kobe shoots too much because mike brown is a terrible coach. the lakers have a lot of stagnant offense causing them to rely on kobe and pau to put up difficult contested shots.

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    this explains some of what i'm talking about

    http://www.bballbreakdown.com/why-the-lakers-offense-continue-to-struggle/
     
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  2. jet

    jet Senior member

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    I think rondo on the lakes would be sick.
     
  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I got to disagree. The Lakers lack or a real PGhas been evident for years now, it is nothing new. Laker fans love Fisher but we have been campaigning on getting rid of him ( or at least move him to the bench) and get a better PG.
     
  4. Imhoff

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    Bring back Smush Parker! !
     
  5. HRoi

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    yeah, but my point is, the Lakers haven't needed Fisher (or anyone) to be a "real" PG in forever. he just needed to knock down threes and be a pain in the ass for the opposing PG.

    but two things happened - their new offense now suddenly needs a more traditional PG, plus he lost a step
     
  6. idfnl

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    I told you guys 20 pages ago Lin would get figured out. He looked awful against the Mavs.

    Melo has also screwed up flow. They are better without him. I dont know who that ass sucking announcer was during that game but I laughed out loud when he said "all those people that think Melo is hurting this team are just crazy".

    Great games across the league a few weeks ago but players are looking tired.

    All you Lakers trade talker are in dreamland. Rondo? Get out of here.
     
  7. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    Who would Boston even want in exchange for Rondo? Unless they pulled a 3 team trade with the Lakers sending Pau elsewhere and Boston getting that team's player(s) back.
     
  8. LawrenceMD

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    I want josh smith on the celtics badly...

    this one works in the espn nba trade machine:

    Lakers get: Rajon Rondo and Kirk Hinrich
    Hawks get: Pau Gasol
    Celtics get: Josh Smith

    the lakers take on more salary but can use the trade exemption.... they also finally get a PG who can help kobe from taking so many difficult shots and another white guy.

    the hawks get pau gasol who can team up with horford to twin tower the east when he comes back next year. plus they just improved the team.

    the celtics get josh smith + paul pierce and 30million in cap space next year. they can dream about signing two near max contract players next year... (theoretically Deron williams and Dwight howard..) josh smith, d-will, d12, pierce, is making celtics fans and danny ainge cream in their pants right now...
     
  9. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    I can't imagine why Atl would want Pau unless they plan to flip him to someone like Houston.
     
  10. LawrenceMD

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    atlanta is one of those teams that uses advanced metrics/analysis to create offensive/defensive schemes and lineups. since they can't attract top talent they had to over pay for joe johnson.

    what hasn't been totally exposed is that Pau is a advanced stat geek wet dream. the houston GM wanted him for that reason - basically Pau is considered underpaid (even at 18million/year) for what he produces on court (like baseball win-shares).

    so the only way atlanta can lock down blue chip talent is to acquire through trade. joe johnson, al horford, pau gasol is a great nucleus and sadly as good as atlanta is going to get without being able to sign marquee free agents.

    josh smith has only two years left on his contract also... he'll be traded or just let go this or next year anyway - because he'll be due for a raise from 12million (ATL is over the salary cap right now).
     
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  11. foodguy

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    all of hte talk blaming brown's offensive schemes on the laker's lack of scoring (and there's a LOT of it) seems to me to overlook one issue: why do they roll like nobody's business in one half and then fall apart in the other? This happens repeatedly. I don't think it's all brown's fault (though certainly some of it probably is). i think they have a personality issue -- they get up on a team and then they relax and any trace of offensive (or defensive for htat matter) discipline goes out the window. you can't really blame htis on brown either, since it has been a hallmark of the team for years ... maybe since phil came on. that said, somehow, despite all of these mid-season soap operas, they have won 5 championships.
     
  12. RFX45

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    Nah, they needed a true PG for a while now, or at least quick young one that can keep up. It's been their achilles heel for a while now, why do you think getting CP3 was a priority this off season? It's been well documented.

    Plus Fisher didn't even drain 3's with consistency, he just made clutch shots, which on hindsight is a good thing but would they even be in that position if they had a good, true PG already? Who knows but the Lakers has always needed a PG, it really is nothing new.


    Eh. Lin is still balling for the most part, even having less TO. Unless they completely shut him down, then I say they have figured him out. Keep in mind that his minutes has gone ever since Melo came back and now BDiddy is taking some minutes off him too. He is still doing good, I projected his points to go down significantly but it's only his assist that are down, likely because Melo sucks up the ball again and Novak, one of their best spot up shooters and one of Lins go to shooters aren't getting as much burn.
     
  13. oneeightyseven

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    reports that Pau trade is currently in the works..? I'm reading several reports over the last 10 mins saying he's gone, with no details as of yet.
     
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  14. RFX45

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    https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/178218086757957633

    For who though? Lowry and Scola? I hope not. Scola isn't as tall or as skilled as Pau and Lowry is suffering from an injury right now. I'd rather they get Rondo and Bass for Pau.
     
  15. deveandepot1

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    Still nothing...
     
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    Read this from another forum...


    That deal would be insane! Not sure how Currys ankle will hold up but damn that would look like a decent steal for the Lakeshow.
     
  17. deveandepot1

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    Why would Golden State agree to that? It would be a horrible trade for them.
     
  18. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I wouldn't say it's terrible, lopsided but not as bad you may think. Laker fan here so I am a bit biased but maybe they don't need Curry anymore since it seems pointless to have him and Monta anyways. Wright has stunked it up this year, very disappointing after last years performance and Biedrins is just about as good as Kwame right now. Pau is still top tier PF no matter how soft he is and Mark Jackson is all about defense and Artest is a good addition to that front. 1st round pick is good too for a rebuilding team.

    Now after saying all those crap about Wright and Biedrins, why would the Lakers want them? Well maybe both will benefit from a change of scenery, sometimes that does wonders to players and maybe the Lakers are hoping for those two? Or they are just additions to even out the deal? Who knows.

    In the end, it's just a rumor but if it's plausible, I don't think I'll be against it.
     
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    Having Lee and Pau would be an odd combo. Wright would probably do well in LA. Won't have to do much but try to rebound and shoot the open 3 like Barnes.
     
  20. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    That rumor has Lee being part of the deal so they won't play together.
     

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