NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

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  1. Brothersport

    Brothersport Senior member

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    Damn, iono if it was worth it to get back into this thread. Few thoughts: I'm happy w/ the articles Phil Jackson is getting. The Simmons one got mentioned earlier and this one was good too: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/sp...?_r=2&src=tptw. Dude was legitimately incredibly interesting, unlike the vast majority of coaches (and athletes) around. Tony Allen is clearly the biggest factor in Durant not getting enough shots. Durant isn't strong enough to get Allen off of him and Allen is the best in the league at fighting through all those screens OKC sets. Westbrook is waiting for him to come off those screens, and when that fails, he's left to try to create for the whole offense. He's still skilled enough to do so some of the time. Sure, he's not a "pure" PG, but it's not all his fault. Examples here: http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/05/10/th...the-ball-late/ You guys def need to read some good NBA analysis. It's EVERYWHERE nowadays, which is awesome. Some great names: John Hollinger, Zach Lowe, Kevin Pelton, Sebastian Pruiti. That 3OT game was SO. AMAZING. I can't make up my mind on whether Spoelstra is a good coach or not. He's clearly doing some great stuff (LBJ at the 4, running James-Wade pick and rolls), but is it his fault that he's taken so long to do so? Was he saving it for the playoffs? And why is he still playing Bibby/Big Z? They've been flat out awful in the playoffs, which is hilarious because Bibby was shooting ~50% from 3pt during the regular season with them. Dirk is hilarious and awesome to watch. I know 300 is an old-ass movie by now, but when Dirk made that stepback, all I could think about was "THIS IS SPARTA!" I shall end with this: [​IMG]
     
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    jet Persian Bro

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    Vegas has heat at about 2 to 1. I'm pulling for the heat and think they will win it, but it's a lot closer than 2 to 1. Just the regular season record should have you respecting the Bulls more than that.

    yeah that line makes no sense. im certainly pulling for the bulls
     
  4. HRoi

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    I can't make up my mind on whether Spoelstra is a good coach or not. He's clearly doing some great stuff (LBJ at the 4, running James-Wade pick and rolls), but is it his fault that he's taken so long to do so? Was he saving it for the playoffs? And why is he still playing Bibby/Big Z? They've been flat out awful in the playoffs, which is hilarious because Bibby was shooting ~50% from 3pt during the regular season with them. ]
    I think he's a very innovative coach but is far from the motivator that Jackson, Riley or even Doc Rivers is. He draws up a fine game plan, but if his players' heads are not into executing it, then he's at a loss. I don't blame him necessarily for playing Z and Bibby (Z just needs to contribute 8 minutes, 6 fouls, boards and maybe a block. Bibby has been woeful, but there's no other option - you can put Chalmers in for a defensive stop, but he has the most horrendous offensive decision making of anyone who's started at PG in the NBA). He really was hoping to have Wade play the point at the end of games, but their "glue guy"', Mike Miller, has been such shit that Wade has to stay at the 2.
     
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    Durant on fire today, at both ends. I love this guy's game. Edit: OKC looked really good today. I don't know if Dallas can handle that speed, but I'm looking forward to that series. With all due respect to HRoi: the Thunder's post-game celebration (subdued, respectful, classy) compared to the Heat's (preening, arrogant, getting laughed at on-air by Chuck and Jet 5 minutes later)....
     
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    Dear Kevin and Russell,

    Thanks for listening.

    All the best,
     
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    jet Persian Bro

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    Grizz had a great run.
     
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    . With all due respect to HRoi: the Thunder's post-game celebration (subdued, respectful, classy) compared to the Heat's (preening, arrogant, getting laughed at on-air by Chuck and Jet 5 minutes later)....
    I agree with you. I also didn't like that the Heat celebrated like they won the title when all they did was get out of the conference semis. I cut them some slack because it was the Celtics they beat (who've killed wade and Lebron for so long), but let's see how they conduct themselves vs the Bulls.
     
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    Didn't know this thread existed...cool.

    Well with my Lakers out I'm on an "anyone but Miami" bandwagon. Though I think they look really good throughout this playoffs.

    It'll be interesting to see what Memphis does with this team. If they can keep it together and add a few pieces they could be nasty.

    Not sure how well OKC and Dallas match up so I'll have to hear what the analysts have to say. The Chicago Miami series is tight - Chicago has a deep bench and good starting line + they're young so should put up a better fight than Boston. But you never know what the Big 2 and sometimes 3 will do.
     
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    I agree with you. I also didn't like that the Heat celebrated like they won the title when all they did was get out of the conference semis. I cut them some slack because it was the Celtics they beat (who've killed wade and Lebron for so long), but let's see how they conduct themselves vs the Bulls.

    I understand what you're saying, but this is what kills me about LeBron especially: they beat a historic, big-time rival, a team worthy of respect, and then:
    1) He (and some others) acted, as you say, as if they just won the title, rather than celebrating/congratulating with a bit less jive on the court.
    2) Then, later, being interviewed, LeBron proceeds to talk up how great the Celtics were, how much heart they had, etc.
    3) OK, so he knows it, but can't bring himself to act like it??? He is just too self-centered, imo, and I suspect we'll see the same behavior if they do beat the Bulls.

    I don't really like harshing on the Heat here, because I like your posts and I know you're a fan; I just think it would be nice if he acted more like his status as a player would indicate. I really can't stand Noah's arrogant BS, but in a sense I don't care so much because Noah will never be MVP. With LeBron I think the demands are different. Jeezus, Durant is also MVP material, is only 22, and he acts infinitely more mature than LeBron. Not everyone needs to be like Duncan, but a little more class from LBJ would be nice once in awhile. I just don't think he has it in him.
     
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    Didn't know this thread existed...cool.

    Well with my Lakers out I'm on an "anyone but Miami" bandwagon. Though I think they look really good throughout this playoffs.

    It'll be interesting to see what Memphis does with this team. If they can keep it together and add a few pieces they could be nasty.

    Not sure how well OKC and Dallas match up so I'll have to hear what the analysts have to say. The Chicago Miami series is tight - Chicago has a deep bench and good starting line + they're young so should put up a better fight than Boston. But you never know what the Big 2 and sometimes 3 will do.

    Welcome aboard.

    Memphis will be nasty enough if they can re-sign Gasol and Gay comes back at his previous high level. Randolph became a leader this year, and that team is young, tough, hungry and well-coached as it is. They don't really need much more.

    I think both Conf. Finals will be great.

    I suspect OKC is too hot, young, quick for Dallas. Barea won't torch OKC like he did LA. Nowitzki will be great, but they can lessen the other guys' effectiveness. Kidd may look his age in this series.

    Miami-Chicago will be a war, but if Chicago can stay disciplined they can beat the Heat. Coaching will be key here, and I think Thibs can out-duel Spoelstra and create some mental problems/frustration for the Big 2.5. Hard to call this one though.

    OKC-Chicago.
     
  13. HRoi

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    I don't really like harshing on the Heat here, because I like your posts and I know you're a fan; I just think it would be nice if he acted more like his status as a player would indicate. I really can't stand Noah's arrogant BS, but in a sense I don't care so much because Noah will never be MVP. With LeBron I think the demands are different. Jeezus, Durant is also MVP material, is only 22, and he acts infinitely more mature than LeBron. Not everyone needs to be like Duncan, but a little more class from LBJ would be nice once in awhile. I just don't think he has it in him.
    don't worry about it, I don't take anything on here personally, and I won't defend the heat from criticism that's true. [​IMG] If Miami fails to rebound like they have this game, let's just give the Bulls the fucking series right now [​IMG]
     
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    17 offensive rebounds whaaaa? 2 of the best players + 1 gay cowboy vs. a deep team. Seriously who is fucking with us?
     
  15. HRoi

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    17 offensive rebounds whaaaa? 2 of the best players + 1 gay cowboy vs. a deep team. Seriously who is fucking with us?

    Ohai. Welcome back. You disappeared on us for a while there, glad you're ok. It was around the time Atlanta was giving the Bulls a hard time [​IMG]
     

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