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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. ellsbebc

    ellsbebc Senior member

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    CP3 with a fractured right hand. If Clippers manage to advance, it will be a battle of backup PGs.
     
  2. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    lol. Nice try.. Lakers had the second worst record. I was saying keep the pic if its top 2, maybe top 3. I ever said anything about trading the #9 pick. Kind of facetious argument.

    D'Angelo Russell - 13-3-3 (in his first season - with partial minutes due to Scott benching him/screwing him for 2/3 the year)
    + Lakers Lottery Pick (probably top 5 at worst)
    +Cap savings (5.3mm for Russell and 16.4 for Butler, and Russell is locked up at low rate for 4 more years)

    vs

    Jimmy Butler - 20-5-5 (16/17/18/19mm next 4 years)

    please explain why this is so bad?

    BTW -

    Butler stats
    yr1 - 2ppg-1reb-0ast
    yr2 - 9ppg-4reb-1.5ast
    yr3 - 13ppg-5reb-3ast

    Russel stats
    Yr1 - 13ppg-3reb-3ast
     
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  3. double00

    double00 Senior member

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    clips are fucked
     
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  4. ellsbebc

    ellsbebc Senior member

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    Welcome to the past month of the Grizzlies. Knew we were outmatched going into the playoffs but our guys were resilient all year and fought to the bitter end. Cannot ask for anything more from that hodgepodge group of a "team". Sure, Coach Joerger will be ridiculed on social media for his emotional press conference, but I think he earned a great deal of respect from around the league.
     
  5. marvin100

    marvin100 Senior member

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    As much as I hate CP3, that sucked. Playoff injuries, sheeit.
     
  6. indesertum

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    hoping warriors can beat off CP3 less clips in the second round. best case scenario

    but portland might go instead. would be fun either way

    plumlee is basically the draymond of the blazers. clippers trap dame or CJ and they pass out to plumlee who finds the open man
     
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  7. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    That's why its a LOTTERY. 2nd worst offers a probability of a higher pick. You said lower pick, and from my math 9 is lower than 1 or 2. But by all means, pick 5 "at worst" as a number that is both lower and makes you comfortable, but they only have a 55% chance at a top 3 and 15 teams have a mathematical chance at #1.

    Butler is an impact player that took a couple of years to emerge, not unlike Kwhai Leonard. You want to compare Russell year 1 stats on a suck ass team to a 50 win playoff Chicago team, go ahead but it's empty.

    If I was a Lakers GM, Russell is a potential cancer that has little to no value right now. If I trade after the lottery is cast, I stand a reasonable chance of my main asset, the pick, being devalued, so I make the move now.
     
  8. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    I can't decide. Who'd you rather have? Leonard or Pippen?


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  9. globobock

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    So, yes, D'Angelo Russel broke the Bro code and made a terribly mistake by posting that Video.

    But he is still last years #2 pick, a potential Franchise PG and actually played great. And is barely 20 yrs old.

    Would you really throw him away because of that Video? I would rather trade Nick Young and his Swaggy Nonsense P.
     
  10. globobock

    globobock Senior member

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    BTW, if the Lakers hire Ettore Messina, that would be great.

    People were talking about David Blatt and his international experience? He actually won the Euroleague only once.

    Messina won it 4 times(!) and was doing his apprenticeship by being Pops assistant. with his Pedigree, that shows humbleness.
     
  11. Steve B.

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    All Spurs' assistant coaches have clauses forbidding them to join the Lakers.
     
  12. FLMountainMan

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    It's close, but Pippen. Pippen carried that Bulls team into the playoffs. It was him, Horace Grant, and a bunch of guys like Bill Wennington and Toni Kukoc. I don't think Leonard could do the same.
     
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  13. Akeem

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    this is a tough one. scottie's biggest weakness was a lack of a consistent jump shot. he could spot up and hit the 3, but he wasn't very good shooting off the dribble. it's also why his free throw % wasn't so great. but he excelled in every other aspect of the game and especially on defense. kawhi is just as good on D and has a more polished offensive game. but I am not convinced of his floor game yet. his current role is to score and play defense. if he starts to create more for others and initiate the offense, he will probably end up with better career than pip. both have had good and bad moments in the playoffs as well, but kawhi has that finals mvp already.
     
  14. HRoi

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    Pippen's one of the 50 greatest players of all time. He was every bit as fearsome as Kawhi on defense, a better offensive player, and essentially the Bulls' point guard as well. It's not close. But Kawhi still has a lot of career in front of him, so who knows if he becomes better when he hits his prime...
     
  15. Akeem

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    just curious to why you think pip was a better player on offense. pip was the better playmaker but leonard seems to be the better and more efficient scorer.
     
  16. HRoi

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    The playmaking is the huge difference. He was a better offensive player because he was better at scoring by setting up his teammates. I don't have time to fact check but I believe their shooting efficiencies were about the same. Pip was also a better ball handler and could get to the basket easier (note that defenses back then were allowed to hand check and hammer you when getting into the paint)
     
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    It's not a question of talent, it's that the team/fans hate him. Also, stories were present all season about his general attitude.
     
  18. LawrenceMD

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    Pippen on defense was like Kawhi AND draymond green. There were times pippen guarded patrick ewing and other centers like alonzo mourning but also would check whomever team's star was too (so that meant guarding anyone from pointguards, 2guards, forwards, ect).

    remember when Pippen checked john stockton AND karl malone in the finals (during crunchtime). plus he was expected to score 20pts, get 5-10reb, steals, and assists on top of that.

    thats what made those 2nd 3peat bulls teams so dangerous, you had Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman swarming on defense. I could only imagine how suffocating the defense would be if they were allowed to play zone.

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  19. jet

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    Pippen one of the most overrated players of all time.
     
  20. Neo_Version 7

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    Speaking as a Bulls fan, I'd choose Pippen but like someone mentioned, Kawhi still has so much potential to get ahead of him. He's athletic AF too
     
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