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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    He is prone to turn overs but I noticed this after he first got hurt this year. Before that, he was attacking the basket and finishing with dunks, he was confident from the USA basketball experience. Remember that Clips run where they would lead 15-20 points but blow it in the 3rd and then they catch up and keep it close but lose anyways, Gordon was clutch on those times. Like that game against Utah, Gordon was driving past everyone and just stuffing the basket, he just didn't have as much help as right now, Blake was still unsure what to do. And then the first injury just destroyed his confidence late in the games, it just got even worse after this wrist injury. It's like he is hesitant to drive to the basket as before since he keeps getting knocked down and he doesn't have the same strength and body as Blake to take it.
     
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    ^^^ He's had a lot of wrist/hand injuries ever since the World's tournament

    nm RFX got it covered
     
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    it's just happened way too many times. you can't have turnovers in those situations..i'd be scared to have the ball in his hands if i was vinny del negro
     
  4. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Only way to build confidence is by experience, check out the second OT after he drained that 3 to tie in the first OT, he was more composed and actually handled the ball when Mo fouled out. He had like 2 assists in 2OT and made a running floater. He got some confidence and it worked, that is all he really needed.
     
  5. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    Boston loses
    Identical records, we have homecourt in finals
    I don't care about homecourt against chicago.
    Miami I believe will be terminated by one of them above so homecourt question is moot.

    West
    If we hold up we'll have homecourt against dallas. No worries.
    Okc or portland should duke it out with spurs.
    Okc we'll have homecourt but is moot as they won't make it past spurs.

    Now only issue is homecourt disadvantage w spurs.

    Anyone care to comment on how we will fare against them in conf finals?

    I'm thinking we'll still win, but will go 6 games.
     
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    Anyone care to comment on how we will fare against them in conf finals? I'm thinking we'll still win, but will go 6 games.
    Duncan's injury doesn't look too serious and Pop has done a great job managing his starters' minutes and keeping them not only healthy, but also fresh. But no matter how fresh, they're still old legs running around in late May. (But I suppose the same goes for Kobe, although I'm in the camp that the dude doesn't seem to tire, ever) I'm not so sure, though, about Lakers winning. Even in the regular season, they're 1-2 against the Spurs (albeit one of the losses was a very close one). You guys definitely have the advantage with the youth and depth up front, so we'll see about that. It should be a great series nonetheless. I'm not so sure about my Celtics' chances, though. As much as I love Jeff Green and understand Ainge's plan, I don't agree that we didn't disadvantage ourselves for the banner this year. It all hangs on Shaq. I can't remember the last time that there was an NBA champion without a "pretty decent" center, unless that champion happened to have a SG named Jordan. In fact, looking at b-r, I can't find one after 1975 Warriors with Clifford Ray, and even Ray could be counted on for ten boards a night. Before that is the 58 Hawks with Chuck Share who was still getting double digit boards (whatever that was worth in the 50s). Seriously, you might go 75-7 in the regular season, but I'm firmly convinced that playoff success requires a pretty decent center, at LEAST. And even that's being generous--save for 87 Lakers with Abdul-Jabbar way on his downside and the Bad Boy Pistons with Laimbeer, all other championship centers were at least borderline all-star level performers.
     
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    i was really impressed that the suns were able to bounce back after that game and come back and win the next night. that takes a lot of heart.
     
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    Duncan's injury doesn't look too serious and Pop has done a great job managing his starters' minutes and keeping them not only healthy, but also fresh. But no matter how fresh, they're still old legs running around in late May. (But I suppose the same goes for Kobe, although I'm in the camp that the dude doesn't seem to tire, ever)

    I'm not so sure, though, about Lakers winning. Even in the regular season, they're 1-2 against the Spurs (albeit one of the losses was a very close one). You guys definitely have the advantage with the youth and depth up front, so we'll see about that.
    It should be a great series nonetheless.

    I'm not so sure about my Celtics' chances, though. As much as I love Jeff Green and understand Ainge's plan, I don't agree that we didn't disadvantage ourselves for the banner this year. It all hangs on Shaq. I can't remember the last time that there was an NBA champion without a "pretty decent" center, unless that champion happened to have a SG named Jordan.

    In fact, looking at b-r, I can't find one after 1975 Warriors with Clifford Ray, and even Ray could be counted on for ten boards a night.
    Before that is the 58 Hawks with Chuck Share who was still getting double digit boards (whatever that was worth in the 50s).
    Seriously, you might go 75-7 in the regular season, but I'm firmly convinced that playoff success requires a pretty decent center, at LEAST. And even that's being generous--save for 87 Lakers with Abdul-Jabbar way on his downside and the Bad Boy Pistons with Laimbeer, all other championship centers were at least borderline all-star level performers.


    With the way Bynum is playing after ASG and the beatdown we handed SA March 6th I really can't see how they can beat LA in a 7 game series. Way too lengthy for them especially with Lamar off the bench, they don't have someone to match up with him. An OKC vs. SA conference finals looks interesting.

    Celtics look like they're relying on Nenad and a pair of O'neals to carry them through the offseason. I have to credit them for doing so well without Perkins before they traded him off to OKC. Chicago looks mighty scary the way they've been playing, so again a Bulls/Celts conf. finals looks fun too.
     
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    Do you mean semifinals? Cause you say SA can't beat LA yet you have OKC and SA in the conf finals
     
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    Do you mean semifinals? Cause you say SA can't beat LA yet you have OKC and SA in the conf finals

    [​IMG] thats what I meant. OKC vs. SA western conference SEMI-finals.

    My guess is its gonna be LAL vs. SA/OKC Western Conf. Finals and Chicago vs. Boston. in the east.
     
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    no no. i just ran the hollinger playoffs prediction software it is going to be:

    Spurs
    Denver

    Lakers
    Portland


    Celtics
    Orlando

    Miami
    NYC

    with Portland and NYC meeting in the finals with Portland winning it.
     
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    no no. i just ran the hollinger playoffs prediction software it is going to be:

    great! i feel a lot better about the laker's chances now. he's got a such a great track record.
     
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    no no. i just ran the hollinger playoffs prediction software it is going to be:

    Spurs
    Denver

    Lakers
    Portland


    Celtics
    Orlando

    Miami
    NYC

    with Portland and NYC meeting in the finals with Portland winning it.


    lol how many of those were marked "UPSET"

    great! i feel a lot better about the laker's chances now. he's got a such a great track record.

    True story.
     
  14. sho'nuff

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    lakers full strength tonite. relatively. when is theo ratliff coming back? is he ever? i liked his presence and some of his legitimate offensive 'moves' when he was playing earlier part of this season and preseason.

    and will caracter be perhaps part of the playoff roster?


    12 only:

    kobe
    pau
    artest
    fisher
    bynum
    odom
    barnes
    blake
    brown


    ebanks? caracter? ratliff? joe smith? walton[​IMG] ??
    only three from here can go to the roster.
     
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    that's a great 9. based on the rotations jackson's been using so far, walton will definitely go (not defending, just saying). ratliff if he can ever get back in a game ... just because they need a second true post. my guess is it'll be caracter ... i think ebanks has been hobbled (or is it the other way around? i can't keep those two straight).
     
  16. sho'nuff

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    ebanks is the small forward who was sidelined recently
    caracter is the power forward fattie who hasnt been really lving up to his potential yet



    ..and remember..last season playoffs we were essentially only SIX deep:

    kobe
    pau
    fisher
    artest
    odom
    bynum


    kobe was playing injured at 75% strength, bynum was on one leg virtually only 33% strength, odom was only there half the time....
    and the rest of the bench crew didnt really contribute much except for the couple of minutes brown and farmar played.

    so celtics fans cant really say much about the perkins thing.
    we can say 'hey we played only 6 people and not at 100% anyways. also, even if perkins was playing 7th game, doesnt mean it AUTOMATICALLY Meant they would win the game. the whole outcome can be changed. it could have been a runaway for the lakers if you really argue about it. like the butterfly effect. doesnt mean anything.
     
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    Anyone else see Griffin get mega-swatted?

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  18. sho'nuff

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    i saw that . thing is he wasnt going for a true dunk or tomahawk, then mcgee wouldnt have been able to reach although he has the longest wingspan for most. blake was doing a like a under scoop up and shot but then got swatted. different.

    but because it is blake, media made a big deal out of it because they just assumed everytmie he goes up , it would be some kind of a over head tomahawk dunk
     
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    Who cares, the dude got swatted like it was volleyball.
     
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    David West out for the season.
    If the playoffs started today, they'd go against the Lakers and could have cruised through them.
    Looks like a spot just opened up for the Rockets or Suns in the playoffs.
     

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