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NBA 2009-2010 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    KoMe has only won with Shaq. Last year he had a lot of good players, but they had to pry the ball out of his hands.


    What?
    + whatever
    See bolded above. Read the instructions, please. [​IMG]


    That doesn't make your first post any less nonsensical. Apparently what you meant was "He has only won with Shaq, except when he won without him."
     
  2. Steve B.

    Steve B. Senior member

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    Forgive me here, but I'm still trying to figure out your reasoning. When you say he has only won with Shaq, does that mean that that was the only time he was a team player and won?

    + whatever


    That doesn't make your first post any less nonsensical. Apparently what you meant was "He has only won with Shaq, except when he won without him."


    I'm saying that the first 4 times he won, he was a role player (albeit a good one), and Shaq was the dominator.

    Last year he was a ball hog as always and his teammates had to snatch it from him and luckily he won another title.

    He still looks like an ant and the lakers will still get swept by the Spurs.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    I'm saying that the first 4 times he won, he was a role player (albeit a good one), and Shaq was the dominator.

    Last year he was a ball hog as always and his teammates had to snatch it from him and luckily he won another title.

    He still looks like an ant and the lakers will still get swept by the Spurs.

    [​IMG]


    I don't even know where to start [​IMG]
     
  4. laughwithm3

    laughwithm3 Senior member

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    nice win by the lakers last night. very nice. big game by bynum. tonite denver on the road. lezzdoit

    kobe was off and denver over performed. that's about it
    however, byumn seems to got some of his mojo back, though he still can't carry the team when kobe is cold, it's still a good sign for lakers.

    2010 season is having a pretty bad start, so many injuries, cp3 just got on the injury list...
    duncan, kevin martin, devin harris, gasol, tmac, antwan...
    annnddd YAO might be done with his career [​IMG]
     
  5. bigasahouse

    bigasahouse Senior member

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    I'm saying that the first 4 times he won, he was a role player (albeit a good one), and Shaq was the dominator.

    Last year he was a ball hog as always and his teammates had to snatch it from him and luckily he won another title.

    He still looks like an ant and the lakers will still get swept by the Spurs.

    [​IMG]


    I don't know if English is your first language, but your statement of "KoMe has only won with Shaq" still makes no sense at all.
     
  6. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I miss Isaiah.
     
  7. hboogz

    hboogz Senior member

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    Did you guys see Dwade drop it on the Nets with .1 seconds left ? Perfection..
     
  8. Steve B.

    Steve B. Senior member

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    I don't know if English is your first language, but your statement of "KoMe has only won with Shaq" still makes no sense at all.

    Damn...I hate having to explain things to you LakuhLadeez...

    1st 4 championships WITH Shaq. Shaq= DA MAN. Kobe= Da Petulant boy.
     
  9. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    Steve, Shaq won 3 titles with the Lakers. Not 4. Making that mistake again and again, in and of itself, should disqualifying you from trashtalking your former favorite team (that you, in all likelihood, would have still been all over had you not moved to this barren of a city we live in [​IMG])
     
  10. Steve B.

    Steve B. Senior member

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    Steve, Shaq won 3 titles with the Lakers. Not 4. Making that mistake again and again, in and of itself, should disqualifying you from trashtalking your former favorite team (that you, in all likelihood, would have still been all over had you not moved to this barren of a city we live in [​IMG])

    Actually what did it for me was Kobe tanking in the finals with Detroit to get Shaq out of town. But we've been down this road before.

    On the 3 vs. 4 I guess I stand corrected. I still have the pics with the toenails by the way.
     
  11. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Come on now, this is the NBA Season Thread, not the Lakers/Kobe hate thread. [​IMG]
    We shouldn't blame the Lakers just because they'll repeat.

    Anyways onto NBA news, Stephen Jackson was just traded to the Bobcats. A huge trade considering the Warriors almost imploded with him and Nelson. Actually, Nelson is hated by most his players and said he might step down as head coach this week so we'll have to see if it still happens even with Captain Jack out.
     
  12. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    actually all the obsessive laker hate talk is just added attention to the lakers. i consider it flattery actually and dont mind it. whenever there is nba talk there always will be laker and kobe hate talk. where ever you go. because they 'suck'? because he's 'arrogant'? well, same things can be said for a dime a dozen teams and players out there but why is it always lakers and kobe? i take it as a compliment.
     
  13. Steve B.

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    actually all the obsessive laker hate talk is just added attention to the lakers. i consider it flattery actually and dont mind it. whenever there is nba talk there always will be laker and kobe hate talk. where ever you go. because they 'suck'? because he's 'arrogant'? well, same things can be said for a dime a dozen teams and players out there but why is it always lakers and kobe? i take it as a compliment.

    lakuhladeez
     
  14. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Jameer Nelson out 4-6 weeks for knee surgery. Good thing they got Jason Williams, now they don't have to rely on Anthony Johnson or scrounge up a quick PG option.
     
  15. Steve B.

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    Jameer Nelson out 4-6 weeks for knee surgery. Good thing they got Jason Williams, now they don't have to rely on Anthony Johnson or scrounge up a quick PG option.

    Yipee. Think I have him in our league. I wish that big pussy Pau would play already.
     
  16. hboogz

    hboogz Senior member

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    Jameer Nelson out 4-6 weeks for knee surgery. Good thing they got Jason Williams, now they don't have to rely on Anthony Johnson or scrounge up a quick PG option.

    IMO, this makes trading away rafer alston all the more nonsensical. Vince is past his prime and it can be said rafer was responsible for their run last year. I have nothing against JW, but rafer is better...
     
  17. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    ^ plus, having Skip to my lou, VC, and Dwight on the same court would make the Magic look like a NBA Jam dream team.
     
  18. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    You guys are crazy. Alston is too temperamental, of course Van Gundy had something to do with it by sitting him for Nelson but getting rid of Alston is a good move. If Nelson didn't get hurt, they would have heard a year long complaint from Alston. With Jason Williams, they know who they got and Williams know he is coming off the bench. He still got it and watch and see, the Magic will finally have a passing PG for once. He'll be able to knock 2-3 three's a game too.

    I really suggest you guys watch Alston take over Devin Harris in New Jersey, dude just keeps chucking up shots like he's Kobe (that ones for you Steve). Alston doesn't distribute the ball well, in 6-7 games as a starter, his one highlight was a triple double and there really wasn't anything else to brag about before or after that.

    Carter maybe old and he won't be jumping over anyone but he is surprisingly good still. He fits in with Magic 3-point shooters well and can still score.

    Plus you guys are talking as if Alston is an exciting player, he isn't doing And 1 anymore, you won't see him break anyone ankle and then throwing behind the back lobs for a thunderous dunks to Dwight or Carter. Jason Williams was a lot more entertaining than Alston ever was in the NBA. Check out his highlights, white chocolate will have you scratching your head in awe. The only downside to him is that he is also injury prone, hopefully he stays healthy for the Magic while Nelson is out.

    Overall, if I were to pick a back-up PG, Williams > Alston any day, unless of course it is street ball then Alston may have the edge.
     
  19. hboogz

    hboogz Senior member

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    You guys are crazy. Alston is too temperamental, of course Van Gundy had something to do with it by sitting him for Nelson but getting rid of Alston is a good move. If Nelson didn't get hurt, they would have heard a year long complaint from Alston. With Jason Williams, they know who they got and Williams know he is coming off the bench. He still got it and watch and see, the Magic will finally have a passing PG for once. He'll be able to knock 2-3 three's a game too. I really suggest you guys watch Alston take over Devin Harris in New Jersey, dude just keeps chucking up shots like he's Kobe (that ones for you Steve). Alston doesn't distribute the ball well, in 6-7 games as a starter, his one highlight was a triple double and there really wasn't anything else to brag about before or after that. Carter maybe old and he won't be jumping over anyone but he is surprisingly good still. He fits in with Magic 3-point shooters well and can still score. Plus you guys are talking as if Alston is an exciting player, he isn't doing And 1 anymore, you won't see him break anyone ankle and then throwing behind the back lobs for a thunderous dunks to Dwight or Carter. Jason Williams was a lot more entertaining than Alston ever was in the NBA. Check out his highlights, white chocolate will have you scratching your head in awe. The only downside to him is that he is also injury prone, hopefully he stays healthy for the Magic while Nelson is out. Overall, if I were to pick a back-up PG, Williams > Alston any day, unless of course it is street ball then Alston may have the edge.
    You have to ask yourself this simple question: Without Rafer last year, would the Magic have gone as far as they did ? It's not And 1 anymore, I know that, NBA scouts know that and Rafer certainly knows that. Although his age is working towards his detriment, Rafer is becoming a smarter NBA player year over year. Sure, there are still remnants of street baller in him, but that aspect of his game will never leave him. It's integrating the street ball athleticism into the structured NBA style that makes him a quality player. He makes some erratic shot choices and his knowledge of the NBA game and the PG is certainly a bit questionable at times, but we can list a few players who fit that bill. The role of each player on a given team is governed by the Head Coach. This isn't college ball , where 1 player starts chucking 3's just because he is their best player (read: Stephen Curry). The HC defines the roles and asserts the overall game plan. Period. The Nets need a lot better management, because they shouldn't be winless. And if Devon gets outshined by Rafer taking 45 FG's per game, blame the HC not Rafer. He is just playing to win.
     

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