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Navy on navy: Prime Minister Cameron

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by CrimsonSox, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Posing with his 5th wife :slayer:
     
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    Would make a lot of sense. He really didn't like to make his back issues too obvious.
     
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    Cameron is not a sharp dresser but he is very sartorially conservative...:rimshot:

    Efficient and clean..

    I hate the Teal and the Green ones..
     
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    I agree. I much prefer the navy tie. I'm reminded of a brilliant post Vox once made on how the components of an outfit (suit, shirt, tie, shoes, socks) should all align on the same part of the city/country spectrum. So not only does Cameron wear a green (country color) tie with a city suit; to make it even more discordant, he wears it with a black suit.
     
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    He is Conservative hence the blue tones...
     
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    CrimsonSox Senior member

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    Looks like the above wasn't the first time that Cameron wore a green tie. Stephen Harper also seems to have reached for a rather questionable tie that morning.

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    Notably, Cameron or his staff make better tie choices when he sees the Queen:

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    My takeaway is that even though the navy tie is more "boring," it is the better choice to go with the navy city suit, compared to the more "interesting," higher contrast green tie. Other ties besides navy can work too, but the key is that it is no criticism that the navy tie is supposedly "boring."

    Pretty amazing to think that Elizabeth was the Queen when Winston Churchill was Prime Minister (in his second term back in office during the 1950s).
     
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    Sorry to have missed this thread.

    What would people say are the parameters for 'navy on navy' working well?

    Mine:

    • Shade as close as possible or sufficiently different (not 'similar').
    • High contrast with shirt (if not white, then very pale blue or pale blue / white bengal).
    • Textural contrast advisable.

    Manton getting it* right:

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    *EDIT: typo corrected.
     
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    Absolutely. JFK had severe back problems and often had to wear braces and other orthopaedic supports. I bet the oddly buttoned jacket was his way of hiding that.
     
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    The Connery Bond look was what I had in mind, actually, when saying as close as possible.

    This is a close up of what I meant by sufficiently different: slate grenadine against navy worsted (with very pale blue narrow bengal reducing to solid at a few feet away):

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    There isn't much about Cameron that isn't tasteless.
     
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    Paddock jacket, I think it was called.
     
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    Another example of the tones being sufficiently different is a navy-grey tie worn with a navy suit. The grey in the tie adds just enough contrast, but the dark blue shade of it matches the suit. It's a very hard color of tie to find, though I've seen Turnbull and Asser carry it.


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    Following on Balfour's advice to vary the texture, here's a picture of Fred Astaire in Silk Stockings wearing what I believe is a navy knit (or perhaps grenadine) tie:

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    Another way to vary navy-on-navy is to have a simple white dot or stripe in the tie, which picks up the white of the shirt. I prefer smaller pindots, but here's Emperor Akihito with a polka dot tie:

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    Source: http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-p...emperor-akihito-and-empress-michiko-visit-the
     

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