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My search for a Tuxedo

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by knwledgeispower, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. mikec1023

    mikec1023 New Member

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    After a lot of research and talking to people with experience, I got a pretty good list of places that offer what I'm looking for. While I wish I could go true bespoke with Despos, it's just completely out of my budget. Maybe someday.

    In the end I narrowed it down to these 4 places. Nicholas Joseph, Balani, Adrian Park and Proper Suit.

    I've heard good things, and seen very nice suits from all these places, but I've actually heard the best things about Nicholas Joseph, which is kind of where I'm leaning right now. I actually have an appt. with them today. I can't say I've had any bad experiences with the others, but based on the vibe I've gotten from each place, it's just where I'm leaning.

    It's definitely a hard decision. I've gone back and forth for weeks. Each place definitely has it's supporters and just the same I'm sure many SF members could pick each of them apart. Heck, I know there are people who would look down on me just for going the MTM route. I would say just go with what feels right for you in the end. I have seen quality work from each of them and I'd feel comfortable with any of them making my suit.

    You clearly have a vision (Love the midnight blue tux idea btw!), so I say find the one that's going to get on board with that and make it happen. If you want to wear a tux wear a tux and don't worry about rules or thinking you might be overdressed. I mean I'm getting married at a summer camp and going all out for myself. I'm going to be way overdressed, but it's my wedding and I want to look a certain way even if most of the guests may not even be wearing ties.
     
  2. knwledgeispower

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    Thanks Jeffery - I will call them this afternoon and see what they have going on currently and coming up. The big day is about 6 months out, so I need to get in gear!

    On a somewhat related note: the bridesmaids just decided to go with a navy dress, which kinda threw a curveball at me. Does a midnight tux conflict this at all? At this point I don't think it will dissuade me from pursuing the midnight blue, but I am curious of opinions.


    Also - I've thrown out to my 8 groomsmen that they have options of renting or purchasing tuxes for the wedding, the only stipulation being that they fit within reasonable black tie attire. Some have expressed interest in the purchase route, which is great to hear. Hopefully we end up with some distinguished looking gents up there with me :)

    thanks again to all that are contributing to the thread!
     
  3. knwledgeispower

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    I don't see any issue. The whole idea behind something like a tuxedo in black or midnight blue or a suit in navy or charcoal is that it does not matter what the women are wearing. It will still look fine.
     
  5. knwledgeispower

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    Awesome - that was my understanding as well, but thought I would get some others thoughts.

    As it stands right now, my best man and I are planning on going to a few places this saturday. I will be calling a few places the next day or so to see if anyone has appointments available.
     
  6. mikec1023

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    Quote: I had a great experience at Nicholas Joseph. In fact, I've already been measured up and the suit has been ordered. Overall I think it was a really great place. It's quiet and comforting, but it did feel a little weird being measured right there in front of other guys meeting with their sales associates. Not out of modesty so much as making it a more personal experience. The staff is super friendly and answered any and all questions I had for them. I didn't end up trying any of their jackets on mostly because they had told me to bring along my best fitting suit to measure me in that, which is customary. The girl I dealt with specifically was great and talked me through all the options and measurements. I even brought in the shoes I'm wearing for the wedding (Alden cap toe cordovan boots) so when we got to the pant measurements, she asked how much of the shoe I wanted to show and measured to adjust the break to how I wanted it. I ended up with a pretty classic 2 button, side vent, light grey suit in a slimmer cut but it was nice to be able to find the little ways to make it personal other than the measurements. I had an inscription put on the inside and the lowest buttonhole on each sleeve will be stitched green to match my brides dress (She's totally against traditional white).

    As for pricing, the nice thing is that almost everything once you've chosen your fabric and style is customized without much upcharge unless you go with a crazy lining or something, so it ended up falling well within my budget. It will be the most expensive suit I own, but it didn't break the bank by any means. I never felt rushed through the process at all, but I did feel at times like we moved a bit quickly through the individual suiting choices (pockets, lapel, etc.). I was confident in what I wanted, but I would have liked some time to think about a few of them. During the measuring though I was allowed to change my mind on some of the decisions I made during the initial part of the appointment. So, now I just sit around and wait, which is a bit nerve-racking simply because all I can do is hope that the measurements are spot on and the suit fits when it gets in. In the end that's what will truly form my opinion. I'll definitely update at that point.

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    Are you having your groomsman wear blue as well or a different color than you? I like the idea of you in blue and them in black with the bridesmaids in blue. There's a kind of balance to that. If you're all in blue it will totally make the bride stand out, which could be cool too. Our bridesmaids are wearing navy as well and I initially thought I would have the groomsman and ushers wear navy, with me in grey and the bride in green. Our wedding isn't very formal (It's at a summer camp) and I only have 2 groomsman and 2 ushers to outfit, so I was hoping they would have the blue suits in their closets already. The way I figured, it saves on them having to rent something, and rental suits can be so ill fitting that anything they would already have would probably look way better. In the end only 2 of them had navy, but they all had some sort of grey, so we'll be a bit mismatched from charcoal to my light grey, which I think will look alright in the end. I have other things to tie us together (no pun intended) because I'm having matching ties made for all of us and the fathers as well. Working on the custom ties has been a pretty exciting undertaking as well.
     
  7. knwledgeispower

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    That is really great to hear that you had a good experience with Nicholas Joseph.

    My best man and I spent all day on saturday checking out various places. End of the day I think Nicholas Joseph is where I will end up going as well.

    A little info about my day:

    I had a 12pm appointment at Nordstrom on Michigan ave (grand ave).. I spend two hours trying on close to twenty suits and probably 6 tuxes they had in stock. I looked like a blob in all of them. In fairness, I am about 6'1" and only weigh around 175 lbs at this point (sad weight loss after a back injury), but there was not ONE suit that had any qualities I liked. All of them were too bulky - too much fabric in chest/back... Length on the trendy models were too short...Pants on nearly all of them were horrible fit.. it was quite odd. Also got to try Ralph Lauren at nordstrom which was good, as it saved me the hassle of going to the actual Ralph Lauren store. out of all the suits/tux I tried on at nordstrom - the Ralph Lauren fit me the best. but no where near $2300 good.

    Then we stopped by Nicholas Joseph, without an appointment. Melanie greeted us and helped us out even though she said she is not a sales rep. Jodie, who I had met before came over and said Hello - very nice. and we tried on a number of the jackets - all of which fit GREAT. my only regret is that i did not try on any pants. Given how great the numerous jackets fit me that were not made for me, i am quite certain they can knock something out of the park for me.

    our last stop was to Suit Supply - it was my first time being to their store. The Tux jacket fit nice, but being that it is a different price point, you could tell the fabrics were of lesser quality. I also did not care for the Lapel shape - and as others have noted, the button placement was just a couple inches too high. I would consider that setup as a viable rental alternative, EXCEPT the pants are MUCH too narrow at the cuff. much too trendy for my likes. My best man may go this option.

    Overall, i feel I've checked enough stores


    So far, the plan is that I will be in blue, and the groomsmen will be in black. I think it will look pretty slick. I also think your setup will look slick- in my opinion the miss matched will be unique. Oh and by the way - congrats!

    I agree 100% that there is a good chance anything that anyone owns will be better than a rental suit. We all know that most suits are not perfect, but I don’t think I have ever seen a rental suit that looks even acceptable.

    The custom tie idea is awesome! Any design swatches or pictures you could share here or PM me? I am interested to see what you have come up with!
     
  8. knwledgeispower

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    I will be going in for my second fitting this saturday. I will try to get a few pics snapped.

    my first fitting went great. Everything needed a little tweaking, but i think it will turn out great.
     

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