My plan to go to jail real soon

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by rdawson808, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    I would buy the biggest power amp I could afford, position my stereo speakers in an optimal location, cue up the Starland Vocal Band's Afternoon Delight and blast it on a continuous loop.
    My roommate might have some tips for you. When we had construction outside our place, it was driving him completely insane (he worked nights). So he took my guitar amp and hooked it up to his computer and various of my keyboards and put on the most irritating noise he could possibly generate at full blast, aimed out the window at them. He actually got them to leave early one time, but most of the time he just felt satisfied in knowing that they couldn't get anything done or discuss anything without yelling at the top of their lungs. I highly suggest this. You can put the amp at an open window and then put a mattress or a bunch of pillows behind it so you don't have to hear it yourself. [​IMG]
     
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    Do you have neighbors? All this noise and commotion has probably bothered them as well. Get a couple of you together and write a letter to them. They might listen up. If not, I endorse j's approach. Put on some psychedelic trippy electric guitar stuff. Make those fuckers question their reality while they work. [​IMG]
     
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    But would it be grounds for suit if I told the truth? Such as how raccoons were living in the house before they started the rehab? Or the squirrels that were getting into our ceiling (and one must wonder about theirs)? Or how about how the framing sat for ages in the rain before the Tyvek was up and protected (is that a problem? I don't know, but it sounds bad to me.)? How about how the foundation had to be patched after some of it fell off the outside?

    edit: I forgot: there's also the kids down the block who always have friends over on Fri and Sat who then walk up and down the street in that drunk college-girl way (i.e. yelling, laughing really loudly, etc.).

    I think they will lose out just because of bad design. They have two little verandas one on top of the other. The top one overlooks a carpark the other is right beside it. Car grills will be at eye height if you sit in a chair there. There's a selling feature!


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    I think the agent has to make a full disclosure. I am not sure the extent of that.

    Tyvek isn't waterproof, BTW. Properly placed tarps would be needed to waterproof.
     
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    My roommate might have some tips for you. When we had construction outside our place, it was driving him completely insane (he worked nights). So he took my guitar amp and hooked it up to his computer and various of my keyboards and put on the most irritating noise he could possibly generate at full blast, aimed out the window at them. He actually got them to leave early one time, but most of the time he just felt satisfied in knowing that they couldn't get anything done or discuss anything without yelling at the top of their lungs. I highly suggest this. You can put the amp at an open window and then put a mattress or a bunch of pillows behind it so you don't have to hear it yourself. [​IMG]

    That works for me.
     
  5. Dakota rube

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    I think the agent has to make a full disclosure. I am not sure the extent of that.

    Tyvek isn't waterproof, BTW. Properly placed tarps would be needed to waterproof.

    Disclosure laws vary from state to state. I am licensed to peddle real estate in two states, and the laws there are different enough to make requirement of certain disclosures confusing to say the least. One state dictates that certain "psychological" impacts (death, suicide, etc.) which happen in a property cannot be disclosed to a potential purchaser without the express permission of the seller. The other state says any such information must not be disclosed, period.

    However, if a real estate agent is acting as a buyer's agent, a duty exists to try to find out if a property is "impacted" in such a fashion. I could (should) ask a listing agent if a suicide took place in a house, but that agent can legally respond that she has no information in that regard released by the seller.

    I don't know how serious you were when you mentioned informing potential buyers about certain "aspects" of the rowhouse, but I'd advise you remain mute. Even if you conveyed a truthful utterance which resulted in a buyer not purchasing the property, the cost of defending yourself against the almost certain civil action against you would be considerable. Truth might be a good defense, but it don't pay the legal bills.

    As to the framing being exposed to the elements: in my experience, every structure is so exposed. One can only hope any moisture present is eliminated before the house is enclosed and finished.
     
  6. rdawson808

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    I'm not going to do anything to get in legal trouble, don't worry. I'm just pissed at this point.

    I called the home owner (the one flipping the house) just to ask him to speak with his contractor and ask the guys to be more courteous. And let him know that they brought my wife to tears this morning so he knows that no matter how much money he is making, he should remember that he is doing it at our emotional expense.

    In the end he probably doesn't give a rat's ass what we think. But I can dream that the city will come by and post a Stop Work order on his front door.


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    Dont burn and sledgehammer it, they may just get the same inept crew to re -build it.

    "Accidently" cut their power. Everybody looks for an excuse to go home early!

    Bribe them with beer.

    Put a couple of orange cones in their spot, maybe they'll fall for it.
     
  8. lawyerdad

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    The freedom to own your own private property comes with the responsibility to let other people do with their property what they wish.
    An exaggeration at best. Plus, it sounds like they're not limiting their activities to their own property.
    Sorry if I skimmed over this RDawson, but have you tried to get your landlord involved?
     
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    Yeah, they are within their "rights," we just want them to be good neighbors.




    Actually, you can go to the city and reserve the spots for special uses like parking a moving van or having contractors come to your house. You pay $10/day/spot. So they have reserved 2 spots for a year which sums to about $7500. The only thing we could do is go the police and try to reserve two spots ourselves, but we would have to have a valid reason--and have to hope that they give these two spots rather than the two in front of these two. And that would just be mean to our other neighbors and woulnd't hurt the jerkos at all.





    Already done that. We have informed both the owner and the property manager. The city inspector has been out to see all of the problems. Whether or not anything happens with it is another matter.




    Hilarious. I would definitely take a beating there, if for no other reason than that there are 4 of them over there and it's only me. Any takers to help me out and challenge them to a rumble? [​IMG]

    I'm banking on them just losing most of their money. The "silent investor" was by one day to look at the place and introduced himself. He was a nice guy and invited us in to see the place. Given all of the additional space they have designed it horribly. I mean, it's like they gave no thought to what people would want. A galley kitchen in a $800,000+ home? I don't think so. No real closet space to speak of? Crazy. Plus, the guy said outright that they were way overbudget. So I'm hoping that it all goes down the drain.

    They've had the mortgage for 2 years almost (unfortunately the property only cost them $165,000). They have the construction costs and all that entail They want to sell for $820,000, so we have heard, but with the market here cooling pretty significantly, they'll never get it. The price they are asking will get you twice the space or water access here with another house.

    Anyway, it is inconvenient at best, infuriating at worst, but there's nothing we can do in the end except hope they lose their money.

    b

    Did you voice your complaints to the silent investor? If he's a decent guy maybe he can put in a word. Besides, if there are encroachment or other liability issues, it's his money that's at risk if the contractors continue to act like clowns.
     
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    Disclosure laws vary from state to state. I am licensed to peddle real estate in two states, and the laws there are different enough to make requirement of certain disclosures confusing to say the least. One state dictates that certain "psychological" impacts (death, suicide, etc.) which happen in a property cannot be disclosed to a potential purchaser without the express permission of the seller. The other state says any such information must not be disclosed, period.

    However, if a real estate agent is acting as a buyer's agent, a duty exists to try to find out if a property is "impacted" in such a fashion. I could (should) ask a listing agent if a suicide took place in a house, but that agent can legally respond that she has no information in that regard released by the seller.

    I don't know how serious you were when you mentioned informing potential buyers about certain "aspects" of the rowhouse, but I'd advise you remain mute. Even if you conveyed a truthful utterance which resulted in a buyer not purchasing the property, the cost of defending yourself against the almost certain civil action against you would be considerable. Truth might be a good defense, but it don't pay the legal bills.

    As to the framing being exposed to the elements: in my experience, every structure is so exposed. One can only hope any moisture present is eliminated before the house is enclosed and finished.

    Not to make this a debate about largely irrelevant points of law, but I hate to see anyone (possibly) misinformed about one of the few subjects about which I know anything. Referring to the hypothetical civil suit based on true statements, or statements of honest opinion, made to potential buyers as "near certain" is a gross exaggeration. If the seller's attorney had half a brain and a smidgeon of integrity he'd tell the sellers that filing such a suit would be pissing away money. And in many jurisdictions, truth may not only be a defense but may also pay the legal fees. Many jurisdictions have some variation of anti-SLAPP laws, which essentially are designed to discourage and/or thwart meritless lawsuits based on activities protected by the First Amendment. Many such statutes provide for an expedited hearing to determine whether the case should be thrown out, with the plaintiff being ordered to pay the defendant's legal fees if the case is thrown out (which is a departure from the normal American rule, whereby you're usually stuck with your own legal fees even if you win the suit).
     
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    i forget if you did this already, but you can talk to the building inspector as well as the planning department about all the egregious stuff happening. poking holes in adjacent buildings, working outside of the designated work hours, drainage runoff, illegal trash dumping, all those things are violations of the law. the building inspector has the authority to impose fines, stop work, etc. ...and in my experience they usually aren't afraid to intervene.

    the other thing you can do - depending on your situation - is to tell your landlord that your living conditions are unacceptable, and that you're going to move out. that might get a little action on his part, as he will have a bitch of a time renting out a place next to a noisy construction site.

    /andrew
     
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    The freedom to own your own private property comes with the responsibility to let other people do with their property what they wish.

    Nah, that lets the neighbours set off M80's all night. Jefferson said it more appropriately, in paraphrase -- Liberty is the freedom to act as one's heart desires within the square bounded by the equal rights of others.

    Hey rd, I remember and sympathize. BTW, ever heard of caltrops?

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
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    sorry to hear it, had the same situaiton a few years ago, neighbor doing renovations drove my wife crazy. good luck
     
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    Pull a Hezbollah.
     

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