In the wake of the 2010 Esquire BDRM Debacle, ed was kind enough to send me a complimentary Panta pair. I've been wearing them about town, and they're phenomenal. Pre-emptive defenses: (1) yes, they do appear criminally short, but that is less due to iGent-no break, and more so due to the long johns hiding underneath (20degree weather); (2) yes, the sports coat pulls a bit also. sidebar: god bless the Armoury for those G&Gs. I'm starting to do more shopping via SF than I do in real life. more over at lessgentlemen.