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My new shoes stretched in a wierd way...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by whochrisliu, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. whochrisliu

    whochrisliu Well-Known Member

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    LeJouvre,

    I cant really comment on that as I dont buy a lot of these types of shoes but through email he has been pretty nice I suppose. He initially said that the shoe needed break in time, then he said that the shoe did not fit. When I asked him what would fit, he suggested that for my demands bespoke shoes are the only option at about 1500-2000 euros. I will take meaning as "You get what you pay for" as in if you truly want the best fit not even the finest RTW will do. Well had I known that I would have just saved my money. I mean if RTW and MTO shoes really where that bad fitting who would buy them? Personally and I am not trying to offend anyone, I feel that Ascot shoes through emails with me gets the feeling that I am dissatisfied. Which is a correct assumption. But since I already wore the shoes they are just distancing themselves from me so they can keep the sale. Karl IMO is not a bad guy but, has not gone out of his way to help me fix the matter. Suggesting that buying more shoes and through trial and error I will figure out what fit is for me is a very beneficial strategy to the retailer and not so much to me. Honestly it does not matter to the retailer how many shoes I chuck out the window because they dont fit, a sale is still a sale. I dont really take anything personal, its just a job. However I think that with retail this high end, more service is required and overall my experience ended in a sour note.

    However thanks the the information LEVOOSH gave me, I think my best shot at a "shoe redemption" is to get fitted for a pair of G&G's, although I have to admit im not familiar with the brand. I originally wanted a pair of Lobb's but unless I can get fitted closer to home then thats a no go.
     
  2. Knowledge is King

    Knowledge is King Senior member

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    Looking at the pictures of your bare feet, I'd say you're a good candidate for a fuller last, possibly even a "banana last" like the Alden Modified Last. If you want to stick with Vass, maybe the more traditional lasts like 3636, Budapester, Banana or P2 would work better for you.
     
  3. Northampton Novice

    Northampton Novice Senior member

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    Sorry, why is that ridiculous?

    Are only the high & mighty allowed to wear nice shoes?
     
  4. sns23

    sns23 Senior member

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    No, but you are probably living outside of your means.
     
  5. hyt123

    hyt123 Senior member

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    A bit far-fetched, maybe even a dbaggish generalization to be making. I'd say it's smart for someone who isn't on the high end of the pay scale to be at least attempting to make a wise long term investment rather than blowing away cash on throwaway-every-6-months pieces of pleathercrap junk. It's not like he's building a Prada collection or something.
     
  6. Snedley

    Snedley Senior member

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    I don't know if some people have a problem with reading comprehension or if they are insecure kids who take offence at rather innocuous remarks so I'll spell it out for you. Anyone purchasing expensive shoes would be living in an area with other people who do the same and there would be a store to try them on fairly closeby. If there wasn't then at some time during the year they would either be traveling on business or on holiday, even if just passing through, where there would be a shoe store where you could buy your brand in person. If you do not fit into any of these categories then you're obviously buying items out of your class.
     
  7. Naka

    Naka Senior member

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
     
  8. Stugotes

    Stugotes Senior member

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    Sounds about right, but I'm not sure what a 50k salary in particular has to do with that.
     
  9. Northampton Novice

    Northampton Novice Senior member

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    You have a very parochial view of life.



    Come now Sir, it is made obvious by the sheer ignorance of all your posts, that class is something you know very little about.
     
  10. whochrisliu

    whochrisliu Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for defending young guys like me, but this is the internet everyone can say whatever and I take no offense. You guys dont know me and I dont know you. What I do know is that we all like up scale fashion. Anyone can brag about anything online, shoes as much as I love them, is childs play. They really are. It is ignorant to think that someone who buys a pair of thousand dollar shoes is "living outside their means" these shoes regardless how nice is not out of reach of anyone that wants them. If someone is passionate about a pair of shoes they will have it, its not like a pair cost 10k, does it? Even a dude that works at McDonalds makes a grand a month. He can save for 3 months and have those shoes if he wanted and thats what counts. Screw the dollar amount we are all here because we appreciate the finer things in fashion are we not? I thought these Vass shoes where going to be the best, the expectation fell short (on my behalf) but I am not giving up.

    That being said, I made this thread mainly because once again, I find myself in a bad experience with a old foe, dress shoes. I never fit them and right now im thinking I never will. However heres some recent updates. I am talking with Tony Gaziano himself, and I hope with his guidance I will get into a pair of shoes that fit. Vass Cipo has also been in contact with me and is helping me with my problem. I will admit it, I dont know S*** about dress shoes. Even after lurking around and reading the whole "Handmade Shoe" book by Laszlo Vass I am still a novice. Thats why I am grateful for this board, so people who know more than I can advise me. I really hope this thread does not get out of hand, saying someone you dont know is too "poor" to afford these things is a is going too far. You dont know what car people on here drive, what their income is a year, what their FICO score is. And even if you did, what would it matter? If someone appreciates shoes and like you said hyt123 saves up for a pair of nice shoes instead of some POS like Prada then power to him!

    EDIT- And to the guy who said that anyone buying high end shoes should be able to afford traveling and living the life and not giving a damn; well I work 5 days a week, 60 hours a week because my family owns a chain of restaurants. My aunt and uncle retired, my grandmother retired its just me and my pops now, we cannot take vacations who the hells going to run the joint if we take off? I have not had a vacation or a holiday since 2007 and I only left in 2007 for 3 days because my grandmother on my moms side was on her death bed. The flip side is I made quite a bit of money for someone my age during that time. I also cannot help that I was born in Houston TX, and I am quite happy to be a Texan even though we are not that well known for high end shoes. Sorry that my state does not put out fine shoes like Budapest. These shoes are not Audemars or Patek complications its just shoes dude chill out its not like were talking Rolls Royce's here. I am sorry that I dont fit into the criteria of being one of these high end shoe clients. I only wish that with time (and mistakes) that I become a shoe connoisseur like yourself.

    -Chris Liu
    Sugar Land, TX
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2012
  11. LeJouvre

    LeJouvre Senior member

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    Well said whochrisliu,

    If you are talking to Tony and to Vass, you are on the right track.

    I hope you keep us all posted, and remember, we need to see those pics of those new shoes!!

    There is another guy I know called "Paulus Bolton" in France who will also hand make a pair of shoes for you. He is on tel number +331 (42) 88-73-68 and e-mail paulbolten@free.fr .

    He is a small one owner bootmaker and so he cannot accept too many orders, but if you tell him "Australian Alien" sent you, I am sure he will oblige.

    He is a wizard with leather shoes, glazing, polishing, repairing and he can produce a pair of shoes of a similar quality to JM Weston, Vass etc for a little less than the Vass prices.

    This is his blogsite:-

    http://paulus-patineschaussures.blogspot.com.au/

    Good luck, and ignore the trolls
     
  12. sns23

    sns23 Senior member

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    Don't try and justify your poor money management ability. Saying a guy making 12k a year should buy 500 shoes if he wants them is ludicrous. I
     
  13. progressive rake

    progressive rake Member

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    You what? You what?
     
  14. Snedley

    Snedley Senior member

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    Of course I'm right.I just put that 50k in because it's what an average slub would be earning as a kid.
     
  15. Snedley

    Snedley Senior member

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    He has Champagne taste and a beer pocketbook haha
     
  16. Teger

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    snedley you're fucking dumb.
     
  17. sns23

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    First, buying ANYTHING used is gross. I am no longer a child, but i do live off a large inheritance.
     
  18. Snedley

    Snedley Senior member

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    Then why are you working at MickyD's? [​IMG]
     
  19. whochrisliu

    whochrisliu Well-Known Member

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    Enough with the bickering its getting annoying, Snedley, I have already made it quite clear the shoes where not used. If you dont believe me then fine, go troll elsewhere. This is the styleforum, are we here to talk finance and laugh about people less fortunate than us? You did make a interesting point though Snedley if we where here trying to impress teenyboppers I dont think we would be talking about Vass shoes would we? I think Kayne West LV sneakers would get a more desired effect. But seriously your being very rude with your assumptions and overconfidence. It is also interesting Mr. sns23 is able from a single post of mine, determine I have poor money management ability. For grown men you are all so quick to jump to conclusions, as a new member I am pretty disappointed. I thought you lot had class, liked nice things and most importantly where here to talk clothes and fashion. Unfortunately I find myself in the company of sour "old men" who make wild accusations without merit. You act as if you truly are the 1% but being this is the internet even if you are/where it does not matter nobody cares everyone is the 1% on the internet.

    That also brings me to another point in which I mentioned above I..."money really does not buy class" (assuming you really DO have money dont you?) But I dont think people really WITH money work "actual jobs" or have to worry about "Expenses" at all. That is the perk to being "Rich" is it not? And that is precisely what people with money do, buy shoes and clothes to impress...everyone, the teeny-boppers and sour old prunes alike. I got to applaud you though, I dont even make 50k a year that would be nice, its actually 45k. My family owns a small restaurant chain, nothing fancy. I manage one of them, I work 2 days a week from 11-4pm. Yeah its not a lot but I get by! But seriously behind your facade, if it turns out you DONT have money then hell...what do we have. A old man with no money a bad attitude? (Or replace "No money" with "Limited money from liabilities") See its not fun being trolled is it.

    Well, this has been a pleasure gents. But obviously my thread has been hijacked by trolls. Since we are no longer talking shoes and are just comparing e-dick sizes I will ask the mods to close this down. Oh I almost forgot, I know some people where wondering...

    [​IMG]
    This was my first car, I got her in 2006 for my high school graduation present. (Yeah im 23) Payed her off in 2009 crashed her in 2009. Unfortunately the economy hit kind of hard. We lost a bit of money in 2010-2011. I was unable to get a 911, which I really wanted badly so I had to settle for this instead...

    [​IMG]
    This is my current car, got her in 2010 should be payed off in 2014 if I stop buying shoes and clothes that is. I know sns23 I wish I had a inheritance, I would be in my Vantage in no time. Hey I got a idea you can take up tarot card reading or fortune telling, you got a gift friend dont squander it. Hell if someone kicked the bucket and left me millions I might even buy you a pair a G&G's just to see that pretty smile. And for Snedley well I think I would buy him a pair of Kanye West LV Sneakers, I think it would be cute.


    But anyways dont miss me too much im not really going away. You can find me on the askandy forum from now on...

    Cheers! Or what do these youngsters these days say...Peace out!

    Love,
    Chris
     
  20. Stugotes

    Stugotes Senior member

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    Ok, I thought we were on the same side here - but you're making 45k/year and drive (drove) a Porsche, then wanted an even bigger Porsche but had to settle with a Benz instead?! Come on!
     

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