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My new jantzen shirt...photos.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Tom, Apr 4, 2004.

  1. Tom

    Tom Senior member

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    Picture #1, with jacket and tie, pardon the jeans, I was just modeling the shirt. Â Collar #5, french cuffs 4D. [​IMG] Pictue #2, without jacket or tie, so you can see the overall cut and color. [​IMG]
     


  2. gregory

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    Excellent excellent choice of fabric. Degree of collar suits you very well, though you may wish to consider a slightly longer collar point ( 2 7/8" or 3" ). In the first picture, the gap between the collar point and the jacket lapel is slightly awkward. In the second picture, the collar looks *slightly* too short.

    I noticed that there is a lot of fabric bunching up in the sleeves. This happened to me as well. I think it is due to the fact that we all insist that our shirt sleeves be long enough to reach our wrists even with our arms stretched forward. As a consequence, when our arms are by bodies, the excess fabric is a necessary evil.
     


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    Your shirt's shoulders are too broad, it's sleeves too long, and body too wide.
     


  4. johnnynorman3

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    I think that the shirt is great. Certainly a keeper. I agree that you could make slight tweaks, such as shortening the arms a hair and probably narrowing the shoulder width by 1" or so. I think that the size of the body is a personal preference, and with a bit of normal shrinkage will be slightly less "baggy" (even though I would not consider the body "baggy" by most RTW standards). You could probably go with a slightly longer collar -- I think that what Jantzen considers "long" is actually "average" in an American collar.

    But all in all, this is a great shirt that you should be proud to wear. Do one more single shirt order and you'll be ready to go.
     


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    I concur that you may want to reduce the shoulder by 0.5" to 1" and shorten the sleeve by 1". But wash the shirt a couple times and see if there is any difference after shrinkage.

    You may also want to take a photo of the back of the shirt. I like to see if there is excess fabric on the back.
     


  6. gregory

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    I am about to wash my five Jantzen shirts for the first time since receiving them last week and I am determined to start right, i.e. handwash them. Can this be accomplished using a sink alone as I am living in a dorm without a bath tub?

    Thanks
     


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    agent.5 Well-Known Member

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    It can be done. But these are cotton shirts, not silk shirts. Just use a washer and use the gentle cycle with cold water.
     


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    With regard to the above, am I incorrect?
     


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    Thanks for your advice. We have washers here with a Cold wash option but without a gentle cycle setting. Is that all right?

    Also I suppose that using a dryer is a no-no?
     


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    It can be done. Â But these are cotton shirts, not silk shirts. Â Just use a washer and use the gentle cycle with cold water.
    Thanks for your advice. We have washers here with a Cold wash option but without a gentle cycle setting. Is that all right? Also I suppose that using a dryer is a no-no?
    I'm in the dorms too, and I use the sink (fortunately, I am in a 'suite' setup, so me and three other guys share one bathroom). It does the job when I really want to wear something that's dirty. I also like to hand-wash my really nice shirts. This is what I do: Use the sink stopper and fill the basin with luke warm water. Either add a small bit of regular detergent or wool-lite for extra-delicate care. Gently rub the shirt and use a tooth brush or small bristle brush to scrub the cuffs, armpits, and collar clean. Be sure to rinse well. I find this to be the biggest problem with hand washing vs. machine, as I can't seem to get all the soap out. If you leave some soap behind, it will turn brown when you iron (don't worry, this comes out next time). I'll throw my cheaper shirts in the drier, but I always drip-dry my nice shirts and my delicate shirts. If the shirt is a little big on you, it's fine to put it in the drier for a few minutes, then let it hang-dry for the rest of the time. I just hang them in the shower overnight. They end up a little more wrinkled than machine-washed and dried, but I think they will last longer. Oh, and never dry a 'stretch' shirt with added elastic in the drier.
     


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    It can be done. But these are cotton shirts, not silk shirts. Just use a washer and use the gentle cycle with cold water.
    Thanks for your advice. We have washers here with a Cold wash option but without a gentle cycle setting. Is that all right? Also I suppose that using a dryer is a no-no?
    I think cold washing with regular cycle will be fine. Do NOT use a dryer, hang-dry them. I think it will be easier and probably yield a better result than hand washing in a sink.
     


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    Thanks for all the input. I have not yet washed the shirt so it may shrink a bit. I chose the "form" fit option from Jantzen on this shirt. The sleeves seem "just" long enough to me, and the fabric bunching in the sleeves seems to have more to do with the girth of the sleeve than the length. I agree about the shoulder, but i want to see what'll happen after a laundering.

    -Tom
     


  13. johnnynorman3

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    That's surprising that you chose the form fit. I would have suspected that was a loose or medium fit. I have a feeling that you may have cheated just a bit on the measurements, because my form fit shirt is very tapered. I'm about to receive my second Jantzen shirt -- a medium fit. On my form fit, I cheated a dab on the measurements (added about two inches to my chest and waist, but zero inches to my hips). I want to see how a medium no cheat shirt comes out. I'll let you know. It is my opinion that Ricky is a fine shirtmaker, and that you need to give him exact measurements -- not cheat measurements -- to let him work his magic. Just remember to give the sleeve measurement of your best fitting shirt.
     


  14. Isak Bengtsbo

    Isak Bengtsbo Well-Known Member

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    The shirt looks great in my opinion. A keeper.
     


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    I guess I'm in the minority in thinking the shirt sleeve length is fine.

    The other litmus test as I understand it is to hold your arm out straight and then point across your body. The cuff should not recede into the jacket sleeve.

    After some washing I think the shirt will lost .2 inch or so and be all right.
     


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