BostonElitist
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Hello:
Today, I received my second ever order from ModernTailor.com. They are really good, however, to measure yourself up using their conventions is very tricky. The mistakes can be quite costly, and you may be left with a useless shirt that's slightly short for you.
On their website and using their own measurement guide, we see that they have 4 different ways to measure your dimensions. Some times, the methods to measure yourself contradict themselves. This is what I think:
1. Even though they recommend that you measure your best shirt, I say "DON'T DO THIS." I say to instead use your exact measurements for *SOME* of the measurements. Depending on whether you'd like your shirt as a slim, regular, or loose fit, they will take the liberty to add either 4.7", 6.3", or 7.9" to hip, waist and chest measurements, respectively. Therefore, by giving them the dimensions of your best fitted shirt, you're actually "Double-dipping" sizes, and your finalized product would be a little bigger than you had expected. Because I measured my favorite bespoke tailored shirt, my Slim-Fit that I ordered came out as a Relaxed-Fit.
2. For certain parameters, you want to provide them your EXACT dimensions. For the neck, wrist, and length, you should provide them the exact dimensions of your favorite shirt. However...
3. ...for the other dimensions, you DON'T want to give them the dimensions of your favorite fitted shirt.
Here is an example of their MEASUREMENTS Page, and I will clarify how to take the measurement.
1. Collar - Take the exact collar measurement that you normally wear (i.e. 15.5"). THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS.
2. Half Chest - Take your full chest measurement, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2.
3. Half Waist - Take your full waist measurement AT THE NAVAL AREA, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2. Your waist measured at the naval is a lot bigger than where you keep your pants.
4. Half Hip - Take your full hip measurement, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2. This number maybe only slightly larger than the waist (measured at the naval).
5A. Left Sleeve Length - Measure from shoulder all the way to just below where your thumb and pointer finger meet. THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS.
5B. Right Sleeve Length - Just like (5).
6. Half Bicep - Measure your entire bicep at the fattest/thickest. Divide by 2.
7A. Left Cuffs - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So you should measure the length of the cuff of your favorite shirt from the button to the button hole.
7B. Right Cuffs - Same as 7A.
8. Yoke - one shoulder to the other. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS ALSO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR MEASUREMENT GUIDE DOESN'T MENTION THIS (http://www.moderntailor.com/common/measure_guide.pdf ).
9. Shoulder - one shoulder to the collar/neck area. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS ALSO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR MEASUREMENT GUIDE DOESN'T MENTION THIS
10. Shirt Length - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So it's a good idea to measure your favorite shirt's length. The length that they recommend is a little shorter than how a shirt should be. They recommend 29.5", but I think that it should be more like 31".
11. Armhole - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So it's a good idea to measure your favorite shirt's length. Also, this is a curved measurement.
Does anyone have any insights on this? The two shirts which came today are slightly loose at the stomach, and they both certainly DO NOT look like a SLIM FIT. They resemble Relaxed fit. Well, at least I know now.
Today, I received my second ever order from ModernTailor.com. They are really good, however, to measure yourself up using their conventions is very tricky. The mistakes can be quite costly, and you may be left with a useless shirt that's slightly short for you.
On their website and using their own measurement guide, we see that they have 4 different ways to measure your dimensions. Some times, the methods to measure yourself contradict themselves. This is what I think:
1. Even though they recommend that you measure your best shirt, I say "DON'T DO THIS." I say to instead use your exact measurements for *SOME* of the measurements. Depending on whether you'd like your shirt as a slim, regular, or loose fit, they will take the liberty to add either 4.7", 6.3", or 7.9" to hip, waist and chest measurements, respectively. Therefore, by giving them the dimensions of your best fitted shirt, you're actually "Double-dipping" sizes, and your finalized product would be a little bigger than you had expected. Because I measured my favorite bespoke tailored shirt, my Slim-Fit that I ordered came out as a Relaxed-Fit.
2. For certain parameters, you want to provide them your EXACT dimensions. For the neck, wrist, and length, you should provide them the exact dimensions of your favorite shirt. However...
3. ...for the other dimensions, you DON'T want to give them the dimensions of your favorite fitted shirt.
Here is an example of their MEASUREMENTS Page, and I will clarify how to take the measurement.
1. Collar - Take the exact collar measurement that you normally wear (i.e. 15.5"). THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS.
2. Half Chest - Take your full chest measurement, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2.
3. Half Waist - Take your full waist measurement AT THE NAVAL AREA, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2. Your waist measured at the naval is a lot bigger than where you keep your pants.
4. Half Hip - Take your full hip measurement, and keep a little slack. Divide this number by 2. This number maybe only slightly larger than the waist (measured at the naval).
5A. Left Sleeve Length - Measure from shoulder all the way to just below where your thumb and pointer finger meet. THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS.
5B. Right Sleeve Length - Just like (5).
6. Half Bicep - Measure your entire bicep at the fattest/thickest. Divide by 2.
7A. Left Cuffs - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So you should measure the length of the cuff of your favorite shirt from the button to the button hole.
7B. Right Cuffs - Same as 7A.
8. Yoke - one shoulder to the other. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS ALSO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR MEASUREMENT GUIDE DOESN'T MENTION THIS (http://www.moderntailor.com/common/measure_guide.pdf ).
9. Shoulder - one shoulder to the collar/neck area. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS ALSO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR MEASUREMENT GUIDE DOESN'T MENTION THIS
10. Shirt Length - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So it's a good idea to measure your favorite shirt's length. The length that they recommend is a little shorter than how a shirt should be. They recommend 29.5", but I think that it should be more like 31".
11. Armhole - THIS IS AN EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND THEY WILL NOT ADD ANY MATERIAL/LENGTH TO THIS. So it's a good idea to measure your favorite shirt's length. Also, this is a curved measurement.
Does anyone have any insights on this? The two shirts which came today are slightly loose at the stomach, and they both certainly DO NOT look like a SLIM FIT. They resemble Relaxed fit. Well, at least I know now.