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My God, I hate the windsor knot

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ZON_JR, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. hiisociety

    hiisociety Well-Known Member

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    I like the winsor knot. LOL [​IMG]
     
  2. srivats

    srivats Senior member

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    You telling me this doesn't look nice?

    [​IMG]


    That does look nice.
     
  3. Bill Smith

    Bill Smith Senior member

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    I prefer the half windsor knot myself when it comes to wearing ties. The four in hand comes into play with button down shirts but I don't wear ties with button downs.
     
  4. musicguy

    musicguy Senior member

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    I almost always use a FIH. The only time I use something different is if I have a thinner tie that makes a really small knot. Regardless, that tie does look good, unjung.
     
  5. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The solution to the cutaway collar dilemma is not to wear cutaway collars. [​IMG]
     
  6. srivats

    srivats Senior member

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    The solution to the cutaway collar dilemma is not to wear cutaway collars. [​IMG]

    Listen to this man!
     
  7. rgoldstein

    rgoldstein Senior member

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    The solution to the cutaway collar dilemma is not to wear cutaway collars. [​IMG]

    There we go.
     
  8. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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    +1

    The knot on the left is strictly for clowns and assholes.


    +1
     
  9. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    Just wear whichever know you like best and be done with it. I personally like the windsor knot, and wear it depending on the collar:

    slimmer collar : half-windsor
    semi-spread : windsor
    spread : windsor or double windsor (depending on the angle of the collar and the thickness of the tie)
     
  10. onix

    onix Senior member

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    spread : windsor or double windsor (depending on the angle of the collar and the thickness of the tie)

    I myself wear windsor too due to my height and the ties are not thick enough. But double windsor? How big is it? Can I see a pic?
     
  11. unjung

    unjung Senior member

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    Half-Windsor:

    [​IMG]

    FIH:

    [​IMG]

    Maybe it's just the photo - the HW photo was taken in my dark kitchen versus the FIH which was taken in a bright bathroom... but the FIH actually does look better.
     
  12. luftvier

    luftvier Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    Maybe it's just the photo - the HW photo was taken in my dark kitchen versus the FIH which was taken in a bright bathroom... but the FIH actually does look better.


    ^This.

    I was a Windsor guy for a long time, thinking the FIH to be a juvenile knot.

    But once I got over that baggage, I accepted that the FIH just looks better in almost any situation.
     
  13. miomall1

    miomall1 Active Member

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    You're obviously unfamiliar with Mayor Daley.

    Montrachet, I and my fellow Bonapartists prefer the term "benign dictatorship" to describe governance in the Second City.

    I always go with a half-Windsor or Pratt (I have no OCBD or point collar shirts). This may sound ridiculous, but I can never get the FIH to look right...
     
  14. radicaldog

    radicaldog Senior member

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    Anything other than a FIH runs a high risk of looking affected or tacky.
     
  15. gboyle138

    gboyle138 Active Member

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    At 6'4, I can't do a full Windsor knot without the tie hitting me around the belly button or higher, unless it is an extra long tie. And I don't find many of those that I like. So this is not an issue for me. poor short people.
     
  16. knittieguy

    knittieguy Senior member

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    Maybe it's just the photo - the HW photo was taken in my dark kitchen versus the FIH which was taken in a bright bathroom... but the FIH actually does look better.
    I don't think it does. Personally, I think the FIH looks lopsided in that picture. FIHs also often twist as the day goes on, so you may have to keep adjusting them if you are not wearing a tie clip. I wore FIHs for years, then graduated to half-windsors, and then progressed to the Pratt Shelby. My search is over. Except for knit ties, I find that Pratts Shelby knots tend to look the best. Although I do think the younger you are the more likely a FIH will look better. Prep school kids and college students look silly in anything but FIHs. Obviously this is a very subjective issue and we are never going to get everyone on SF to settle on one knot. Which is as it should be.
     
  17. ferguscan

    ferguscan Senior member

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    I don't think it does. Personally, I think the FIH looks lopsided in that picture. FIHs also often twist as the day goes on, so you may have to keep adjusting them if you are not wearing a tie clip.

    I wore FIHs for years, then graduated to half-windsors, and then progressed to the Pratt Shelby. My search is over. Except for knit ties, I find that Pratts Shelby knots tend to look the best.

    Although I do think the younger you are the more likely a FIH will look better. Prep school kids and college students look silly in anything but FIHs.

    Obviously this is a very subjective issue and we are never going to get everyone on SF to settle on one knot. Which is as it should be.


    FIH is supposed to look lop-sided. That's one of its virtues. Perfectly symmetrical windsors are for politicians and serial killers only [​IMG]

    Stuart
     
  18. onix

    onix Senior member

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    FIH is supposed to look lop-sided. That's one of its virtues. Perfectly symmetrical windsors are for politicians and serial killers only [​IMG]

    Stuart


    Now I know why I always wear Windsor [​IMG]
     
  19. knittieguy

    knittieguy Senior member

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    FIH is supposed to look lop-sided. That's one of its virtues. Perfectly symmetrical windsors are for politicians and serial killers only [​IMG] Stuart
    I know a FIH is supposed to look lop-sided, but I don't think a tie looks good like that. If I wanted to look lop-sided I would tell my tailor to leave one sleeve shorter than the other. Full windsors are a bit much, but it is more the shape and bulk than the symmetricality that are the problem in my book. That's why I prefer the Pratt. Maybe it's just my upbringing. FIHs remind me of being a teenager, when I also left the top button undone on my Brooks Brothers button-down oxford and always wore a fabric belt with two rings for a buckle.
     
  20. Trompe le Monde

    Trompe le Monde Senior member

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    ones shirt should be as trim as possible without looking like its painted on. sleeve length should terminate precisely at the head of 1st metacarpal. left cuff should be enlarged by .793 inches to allowance for wristwatch (mechanical, single function, arabic numerals). both cuff should extend 1/2" beyond jacket sleeve when supine and rested, 1" when curled. oh, but if the tie is too symmetrical it "looks affected". [​IMG]
     

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