My first made-to-measure shirt (in Dublin): Dalvey, Smyth & Gibson, or Ermenegildo Zegna?

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  1. microwaveplasma

    microwaveplasma Member

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    My neck is disproportionate to my body so I always had to wear shirts that are way too big for me. Now I'm thinking of having my first (and maybe more) made-to-measure shirt here in Dublin (Bespoke is almost non-existent here to the best of my knowledge). Which of the three brands would you recommend me to go for? Dalvey, Smyth & Gibson, or Ermenegildo Zegna? Anyone has experience with any of the three?

    - Dalvey charges 140 euros/shirt and ~500e/5 shirts. Everything is "Made in Scotland" I think and I was told that it would be "bespoke" though the salesperson didn't seem to know what he was talking about so I think that it's actually made to measure. Their fabrics don't appeal much to me but this is the cheapest option among the three and their ready-to-wear shirts look nice enough.

    - I own a few Smyth & Gibson shirts myself and I do like them very much but again the shirts are either too big at the shoulder or too small at the neck that I can't button it. They charge >150e per shirt. I particularly like their shirts with the collar bar and their fabrics look nice enough. The fabrics are "Made in Italy" and the shirts are "Made in Ireland". Currently I'm leaning towards Smyth & Gibson.

    - Ermenegildo Zegna charges >250e per shirt. The fabrics are excellent but I read quite a few negative reviews about their made-to-measure suits on this forum so I wonder how their made-to-measure shirts are. Also, for 250e, I guess I can go for better options like Charvet (which unfortunately is not here in Dublin but I can always make a quick trip to Paris) or Turnbull & Asser (a quick hop from here to London)?

    If you were me, which one would you choose?
     


  2. Odradek

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    I've no experience with any of them, but if another option you could try is to get on a plane to London and pay a visit to Stephan Haroutunian Shirts in Fulham.

    Again, I've never bought a thing from them, but they do come highly recommended.
     


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    They seem to be very affordable but these quoted prices are from 3 years ago so they might be much higher now. I'll check them out the next time I'm in London. For now I guess, given the limited options here in Dublin, I'll have one Smyth & Gibson and one Ermenegildo Zegna shirts made to see how they turn out.
     


  4. Stugotes

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    I had a MTM made by Zegna. It was 190€ though, not 250.

    Fabric quality is great, but the fit was off. Though that may have been the fabulous and persuasive SA, who talked me into some stupid adjustments. I had it altered two times before I was satisfied with the fit.
     


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    Get a plane to London, there will be many mtm and bespoke options. Bear in mind some with have a minimum requirement for bespoke.
     


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    Between Smyth & Gibson and Zegna, I'd go for Zegna as their shirts are of better quality.
     


  7. microwaveplasma

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    Thanks for the heads up! Where did you get your MTM with Zegna? Here in Dublin it was done through a department store called Brown Thomas and they quoted me >250e for a shirt (lowest price for their "cheapest" fabrics), >1200e for a jacket, and >1800e for a suit. I thought it was "reasonable" because ready-to-wear EZ shirts are sold for approximately the same price but now that I know it costed you less, I'm considering not going for the EZ option here in Dublin.

    I'll do that the next time I'm in London. Smyth & Gibson is doing their measurements next week so I'll give it a try anyway.

    I thought so too but the quoted prices for the MTM Zegna shirt seems a bit off here so I'll get the Smyth & Gibson first. Will probably get a Zegna done somewhere else.
     


  8. Stugotes

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    I went to a Zegna store in Hannover, Germany. I think that was two years ago, maybe they raised prices since then? I couldn't imagine why they would cost so much more in Ireland. Maybe the department store you went to charged a premium.

    It's my best shirt, I think, even though the SA was manipulative. I'd do it again, if I hadn't found a bespoke shirtmaker in Italy [​IMG]
     


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    I've just found the website for Stephan Haroutian Shirts, and a current price list.

    Made to measure shirts start at £79.
     


  10. microwaveplasma

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    Well everything is unreasonably expensive in Ireland :(. I'll go to my measuring appointment to see how they are and make a decision then to see if I should have a shirt made with them or not.

    Thanks! I'll check them out the next time I'm in London.
     


  11. Zac Duncan

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    I made a few from Zegna in the past,
    but recently i make my MTM shirts from timeless tailor, it is a Hong Kong tailor but they have online service
    you can give it a try
     


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    How did you get on with Smyth and Gibson? I'm contemplating going up to Befast to try them out.
     


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    I know this is out of date but someone might find it useful.

    I found an shirt made by Abrahams in a charity shop. The quality struck me as very good (didn't buy it as it was too big). I don't know if they do bespoke shirting but they do bespoke suits.

    there ya go! ;)

    http://www.menswear.ie/
     


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    edit: dp
     
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    I think Abrahams use Zegna or another of the Italians for their shirts. As a matter of interest do you have any experience with tailors in Dublin/Ireland? It would be interesting to compare notes.
     


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