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My EGs are killing me!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ambulance Chaser, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. johnnynorman

    johnnynorman Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I'm glad to be making my "first" post. For those of you wondering where I was, I indeed have been busy. LA Guy, my private messenger is just about the best way to contact me, btw -- my phone has been relegated to the emergency only category due to my office set up.

    Anyways, I had this same type of problem with my Whittakers, although I felt it more in my my second toe, as opposed to my big toe. It took about 15 wearings or so to dissipate. I think it will be a leather softening issue rather than a fit or structural problem.
     
  2. oscarthewild

    oscarthewild Senior member

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    Yup,

    As these are not glued shoes (unless you get the fake EGs), you can give them a nice soaking in water. To further assist the permeation, add some lexol leather cleaner (not too much) to the water. Take the shoes out of th water.
    Then you can put plastic bag over your feet and slip then into the shoes. The leather is softened and will stretch easily. Wear them around a bit. The tight spots should be opening up at a much faster rate than when leather is dry.

    Then take the shoes off, slush out as much water as possible and put them to dry (but not near a heat source). You can add wads of absorbant paper to aid in the drying. Replace these as needed. May want to add the trees that came with the EGs (and are from the same last shape - You have those ??) periodically to help reshape the shoes. Leaving them in longer will hinder in the drying of the shoes. Once you feel the shoes are dry, they will need a good polishing.

    Best of luck.

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    I have done this with thick skinned wingtips and it worked.
     
  3. Financier

    Financier Senior member

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    This has happened to me once, with a brand new pair of Cole Haans many years ago. I was in NYC for job interviews, so changing shoes was not an option.

    My solution was simple, crude, and effective: I taped a penny to my toe to protect it. By the end of the day the shoe was broken in at the offending spot.
     
  4. sysdoc

    sysdoc Senior member

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    In this thread, we have three separately documented incidents of the Mackay/Asquith hurting the wearer. Time for a recall or class-action lawsuit . . . [​IMG]
    This seems a reasonably common problem with captoe EGs. I've had it on several pairs as well and simply used EG shoe trees that I pushed in as far as I could. After leaving them for a few days the problem almost disappeared. Janne might chime in about this as well, but I'll say it now: Don't soak your (new) shoes in water and let them dry without very well fitting (meaning not too small!) shoe trees!! They might end up tighter than before! Janne leaves a last in the shoe for the drying process. Lasts don't allow the shoe to shrink. Leather constricts when it dries. By the way, it seems about time to work on that Shoe workshop report ... [​IMG]
     
  5. janne melkersson

    janne melkersson Senior member

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    sysdoc,
    good idea to push in the trees as far as you could, any thing goes as long as it works!

    There is a special tool (bunion stretcher) for this kind of operations shown on the attached photo. A company in El Paso sell them for 38.5 USD which is a good price for it.

    http://www.elpasoshops.com/cgi-bin/p...ory_Code=STRCH
     
  6. sysdoc

    sysdoc Senior member

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    Hi Janne, [​IMG] just wanted to say thanks! Your shipment arrived today! [​IMG]
     
  7. brass4321

    brass4321 Active Member

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    I had the same problem with my Mackays - I brought them to Vogel Boots in NYC and after examining my foot and the fit, they determined that a bone protruding from the top of my foot, just below the laces, was making the leather crease sharply across the base of my toes. The leather in the Mackay is rather thin so that when it creases, it doesn't just apply a bit of pressure, it really digs into your flesh. Vogel stretched my shoes a bit where the bones protrude and now the shoes fit like gloves and don't crease nearly as much - very comfortable in fact. Cost me about 1 week and $40 - the stretching itself is not noticeable at all.
     
  8. Bic Pentameter

    Bic Pentameter Senior member

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    I am having a problem with my RLPL Mackays that I hope someone can shed some light on.

    The left shoe does not seem to be breaking in properly. When my foot bends during my normal walking stride, the shoe puts pressure on the base of my big toe, creating/aggravating a blister. I suppose I am partially to blame for not wearing the shoes 2-3 hours at a time to start, but this has not happened with my right shoe, nor has it happened with any other pair of shoes I own. Has anyone else experienced a problem like this? Will it resolve itself over time?


    I experienced the same problem with a pair of captoes (the Gladstone, I believe). They bit into the tops of both big toes, but were much more vicious on the right foot. My shoes were also on the 888 last, the last I understand the RLPL Mackays are on.

    I took my shoes to Union Works, and was told there are three solutions. (1) They could glue some leather to the lining to modify the crease pattern that was causing problems; (2) They could add an innersole to push the foot up into the top of the toebox and modify the crease pattern; or (3) they could stretch the shoe so that it didn't bite down into my toes.

    I opted for the first, and was rewarded with temporary relief. I finally used a shoe stretcher and stretched the heck out of the shoe myself. They seem OK now, but I ended up sheding quite a bit of toeblood in the breakin process.

    I mentioned my problem to Tony G., and he suggested that the long toe box had too much leather bunching up against the cap seam running across the toe.

    Bic
     
  9. whoopee

    whoopee Senior member

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    After the second wearing my EGs are now pain-free.
     
  10. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    I am pleased to report that the problem has resolved itself after several more wearings. The Mackays are now among my most comfortable shoes. Women are not the only ones who make sacrifices for the sake of style! [​IMG]
     
  11. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    [​IMG] Great to hear AC!
     
  12. scnupe7

    scnupe7 Senior member

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    I am pleased to report that the problem has resolved itself after several more wearings. The Mackays are now among my most comfortable shoes. Women are not the only ones who make sacrifices for the sake of style! [​IMG]


    Good to hear. Hopefully your Holcots (sp?) won't inflict as much pain upon you.
     

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