My canvassed suit is bubbling? WTF?

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  1. daspianist

    daspianist Well-Known Member

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    I had just gotten my Canali suit back from the dry cleaners, and it seems that there are small signs of bubbling at the lapels, as well as some more noticable bubbles at the midchest area.

    I thought that by paying more by buying a fully canvassed suit (from their boutique on 25 Broad), bubbling was a thing that I'd never again encounter. Whats going on??!!

    Thanks [​IMG]

    P.S. I definitely do feel the canvass when I pinch the suit, so I know I wasn't deceived by the salesman or anything...
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    Sounds like it got wet?
     
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    axe Senior member

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    It couldn't bubble if it were fully canvassed now, would it? [​IMG]
     
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    texas_jack Senior member

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    Maybe the stitching shrank. Is is puckering at the edge of the lapels?
     
  5. daspianist

    daspianist Well-Known Member

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    Bravo idfnl.. now that you mention it, my jacket did get somewhat wet one lovely afternoon. How would the jacket getting wet affect bubbling, and are there any actions I could take to correct this?

    Thanks.
     
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    They soaked it with too much steam. They either were overdoing it, leaving it on the press too long, or not venting it enough (the press pulls fresh air through fabric to avoid this).

    The net effect is they got the canvas too wet which puckered when it dried, affecting the suit cloth.

    If it is pretty bad, and sounds like it is, the solution is to take it to a tailor that knows what he is doing. He'll have to open the suit up and actually work to repress the canvas itself and resew.

    It sounds like more work than it probably is... but it is the best solution. The cleaners should owe you the cost of the alteration and a refund on the cleaning.

    And I'll tell you, even though my tailor did a great job, it will never be 100% again. If you can get your tailor to vouch it is ruined, I'd say the cleaners owe you a suit. Oh, and do check the fine print with your dry cleaners. It might require you to let them see it first.
     
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    whiteslashasian Senior member

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    Great info CG!
     
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    Gradstudent78 Senior member

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    And I'll tell you, even though my tailor did a great job, it will never be 100% again. If you can get your tailor to vouch it is ruined, I'd say the cleaners owe you a suit. Oh, and do check the fine print with your dry cleaners. It might require you to let them see it first.


    I'll be amazed if the dry cleaners ponies up based off of other stories I've heard.
     
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    sounds like it'll be very troublesome, good luck.
     
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    I'll be amazed if the dry cleaners ponies up based off of other stories I've heard.

    Agreed- but I can be persuasive [​IMG]
     
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    I'll be amazed if the dry cleaners ponies up based off of other stories I've heard.

    Just don't try to go after millions and maybe they'll split the cost with you.
     
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    jefferyd Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Bravo idfnl.. now that you mention it, my jacket did get somewhat wet one lovely afternoon. How would the jacket getting wet affect bubbling, and are there any actions I could take to correct this?

    Thanks.


    Did it get wet before or after you got it back from the cleaners? It can also be bubbling because they steamed it on one of those awful dummies (cue Vox with the pic) and it just needs a proper pressing.
     
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    Hi Everyone,

    I didn't want to start a new thread but I really need some help with this situation.

    I recently (about 1.5 months ago) purchased a new suit from a retailer here in Australia.
    They are quite a well known brand and I was recommended to them by a guy who is supposedly the best tailor in Perth (my city). This tailor is partnered with this retailer and other brands.

    After purchase, it took about a month, or a bit more to get my suit back from the tailors, as he was pretty busy, and after trying it on again I realised the arms needed to be let out a bit to allow me to move.

    At the time of purchase, I was so excited (this was my first nice wool suit), I did not inspect the garment. Upon collection, I was also so excited, I did not inspect it.
    I simply tucked it away in its bag and hung it in my wardrobe ready for its first use.
    Eventually, I used the suit at an event, indoors and for approximately 3 hours.
    After using it, I hung it up to air and in the morning stopped to admire it.

    And then I noticed some strange wrinkles/bubbles/creases in the suit, under the lapel.
    I am not a suit expert, so I didn't really know what it was.

    I took it back to the retailer, who got it steamed and pressed, they assured me it would fix the problem.
    I stupidly did not check it in store, just gave it a quick glimpse (it did seem better). When I got home, I properly inspected it under better lighting and found the problem was still there.

    I took it back once again, and they sent it to the head office for inspection, and they have come back and informed me that since the suits are not fused, it cannot be a manufacturer fault and are not willing to help me with a refund or replacement. They believe it is due to exposure to heat, and the only people who may have steamed or pressed it are themselves or their tailor.
    I was also under the impression that a canvassed suit should not bubble.
    *edit* I did some research and found that this particular brand makes half-canvassed suits

    I've attached some pictures of the suit. The first 2 are after the steam and press, the second two are from before.

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    Any help you could provide would be much appreciated.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2014
  15. jefferyd

    jefferyd Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    This bubbling is the not the result of delamination (the bubbling sometimes seen on fused suits). When the manufacturer was pad stitching the lapel, a necessary step in full or half canvas garments, the machine was not set correctly and it created empty pockets where the stitches did not fully penetrate. In other words, in some areas the canvas has been invisibly stitched to the cloth and they roll as one, and other areas were not correctly stitched and the empty space appears as a bubble where the cloth and the canvas separate. It is a manufacturing defect.
     

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