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My Balmoral Boots

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AnGeLiCbOrIs, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    I think it's because he set the wing quite far forward on the toe. If he'd set it back on the vamp, like on most RTW wingtips (C&J, AE, Alden), the toe would look longer. Same effect as on the AE Park Aves and 5th Aves: the seam's being set on the toe makes the shoe look shorter.
     
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  2. fritzl

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    maybe, maybe not. on the side view you can see that the balance is ok. imo, the missing of a medaillon might be irritating. small size makes it difficult either.
     
  3. Asian Afro

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    Size 7, though I think I might be more comfortable with 7.5. Will know for sure after I've walked a bit in them, probably two or three months from now. (I have no place to scuff up the soles right now because it's snow and ice outside, and new soles can slip on carpet.)
     
  4. p.henrik

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    Actually, my trial shoes from Cliff were too elongated (and too big overall). They were based on a bespoke Springline last though, that I had requested with a slightly rounded, but still chiseled toe. I have no experience with his house lasts, but I think he has a chiseled elongated last in addition to the round one.

    As some other users have noted, you have to have some patience with Cliff's response and delivery time. My process is 5 months in the making and I'm still waiting on my second trial shoe. This is partly due to Springline lead time too.

    Have decided to go for a black calf wholecut. Somewhat boring choice perhaps, but fills an important hole in my shoe wardrobe.
     
  5. culverwood

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    A pair of black adelaides that I am expecting from Cliff soon.

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    Very similar in style to the espresso oxfords he made for me but with a higher instep.
     
  6. culverwood

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    I have received the shoes from Cliff. As requested he adjusted the instep to make it higher as my first pair had a wider gap at the lacing area than was ideal. They have not yet been polished by me so are a little bland. The toe is his usual "unelongated" shape and I found on my previous pair that when the cap has been properly shined the proportions look pretty good.

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  7. Northampton Novice

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    I don't quite know how we got to posting these ^ in this thread...

    Nevertheless an interesting shoe. Perhaps it's the photographs but the positioning of the cap looks a little peculiar to me, not as vulgar as say the Barker Black Clifton, but certainly reminiscent.
     
  8. culverwood

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    This is a thread about Cliff Robert's shoes what would you expect in it?
     
  9. Northampton Novice

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    Well that's not what the thread is called is it Culver?:)
     
  10. culverwood

    culverwood Senior member

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    It has always been called the same I can understand your confusion.
     
  11. LynahFaithful

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    The thread title is a misnomer but it has been from the start about Cliff Roberts and shoes and boots he has made or is making for SF members.
     
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  12. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    You use the last from your bespoke shoe maker?
    Does Cliff do his own patterns?
    What did he specialise in when he worked for big shoe factory in Northampton?
    He seem very capable man.
    Did Cliff close upper,
    the stitching look sloppy.
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  13. culverwood

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    Clif uses his own lasts (from Spring Line I suspect), I do not think my bespoke maker would lend their last for me to another maker. I think he does make his own patterns as he charges for new designs and will make almost anything you ask him to.
     
  14. ncdobson

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    There's a Cliff Roberts in the EG video who is the finisher. Is that him at 4:50ff.?

     
  15. bengal-stripe

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    Yes, it's him. - I believe, the video is a few years old.
     
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    Oh no, the toe cap is far too short to look pleasant. Such a shame.
     
  17. Northampton Novice

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    As I said in the post with the pictures although the cap seems small in the photos I have found them when on my feet and with the cap polished to be well proportioned. Perhaps it is my photographic lack if skill.
     
  19. Asian Afro

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    Happened to me as well but the trousers didn't rip. I think the hemming needs to be done a bit more neatly in my case so the thread wouldn't get caught.
     
  20. Mess

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    Can someone give me some details about how Cliff is working atm please. I am thinking of rewarding myself if I get a new job and the questions I am thinking of are:
    1) Can you choose the length between the end of the shoe and the cap as it always seems very small in comparison to most shoes on the market.
    2) What is the current wait time?
    3) What is the current price?
    4) Does the rounded toe look quite as full in real life? Are there any other toe shapes outside of round and chiselled/round?
    5) What is the quality of leather like? How has it been for people after a fair amount of wear?
    6) How does the leather shine up?
    7) Does he replace the soles as they wear? How much does he charge if so?
     

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