MTM, tweed addict, Connick and Locke, Sims and Mac Donald

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  1. burtonbradstock

    burtonbradstock Active Member

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    Hi there, Looking for a three piece tweed suit for my wedding; one that I can wear again for stage purposes (i'm a singer) and through extensive research, (saville row, tweed addict, cad and the dandy, brooks brothers) have found myself visiting both Connock and Lockie and Sims and MacDonald. Both very approachable. Connock being more approachable, which is not surprising at there price of £2400, and Sims quoting £1600.
    I'm torn between the two! The main difference being that Connock are solely bespoke, with everythin being hand stiched and sims just hand cutting the cloth, with the rest machine stitched.
    i suppose that i've awnsered my question, but would still appreciate any advise.
    I was told fomr a good source that if I sourced the cloth myself, and went to these guys, that I would find something around £1500. Connock... are way off this.
     
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    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Why would you want a tweed suit either for your wedding or for singing on stage?
     
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    burtonbradstock Active Member

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    That's what i've decided to wear, and being English it compliments my tradition and my profession (I sing English songs)
    Do you have an opinion about the two tailors?
     
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    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Tweed is in no way traditional for weddings or performances.
     
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    emptym Moderator Moderator

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    ^?

    I'm a big fan of tradition, but I say wear whatever you want on your wedding. And that goes quintuple for a performance.

    My only concern for tweed in both cases would be overheating. Sorry I don't know anything about either tailor.
     
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    burtonbradstock Active Member

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    Thank you both for your permission to wear whatever I wish to my own wedding. I'm aware that it's not traditional for such an occasion, I was simply enquiring about the two tailors.

    Emptym, I'm looking a very light cloth, probably 12 to 14 oz which should be ok for Cornwall, where incidentally traditionally is Celtic.

    Thanks for your help though, I have been warned about blogs in general; people projecting their own agendas etc.
     
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    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Lol. Obviously you can wear whatever you want. I'm just questioning why you would want to wear that, as it's a pretty odd choice.

    Anyway, carry on. Have fun with the post-wedding hunting trip.
     
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    bboysdontcryy Senior member

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    Connock and Lockie has a more refined pedigree and, from what I've heard, cuts the better suit. Sims & MacDonald is a notch lower quality. Prices are reflective of this.

    If you're new to the world of bespoke, you're not likely going to be able to tell the difference.
     
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    Although I dislike the choice of cloth, however I find the work of Connick very reasonable, they have a great selection of old Lesser.
     
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    That's good advise, thanks. Does anyone know anything about tweed addict?
     
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    Macallan Senior member

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    As far as I know, Sims only offer bespoke; and machine-stitiching is not a bad thing - do not confuse bespoke with hand stitching

    Keep the process simple, do not source your own tweed. Both will have access to a lot of tweed cloths, unless you want something unique.

    You need to decide if you want to pay £800 more for hand-stitching. From your post, it seems you should go with Sims; however, it would be helpful to know your suit experience.
     
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    burtonbradstock Active Member

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    Seems to me that the choice of cloth is irrelevant, for you're able to source any cloth from various establishments?
     
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    burtonbradstock Active Member

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    Tweed aside, I'm looking for the best suit for the money. Initially, I didn't think that I could afford bespoke, and was going to go MTM.
    I'm still confused about the difference. Tweed addict take your measurements, you choose the cloth, they send it to a tailor who cuts it by hand, and half machine stitch; similar to cad and the dandy.

    I appreciate your thoughts.
     
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    bboysdontcryy Senior member

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    Yes. Tailors have fabrics books from which you can select the tweeds that suit your fancy. They usually books from the reputable merchants including: W Bill, Holland & Sherry's Sherry Tweed, Harrison's etc. They might have a couple of books from less well known merchants/mills too.
     
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    You're right (of course) there doesn't seem to be any point in sourcing the cloth separately.
    £800 is a big difference in hand stitching, perhaps I could negotiate?
    So is £750 for a suit from tweed addict less than 1600 from Connie and Locke.
     

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