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MTM & BESPOKE (2016) prices; Did I Pay Too Much?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by THEPUNTIF, Jul 13, 2016.


    THEPUNTIF New Member

    Jul 13, 2016
    I need perspective....

    Recently paid $3000 USD for a MTM sport coat in hopsack, unlined.
    Transaction & measurements were conducted locally at a small haberdashery in Tokyo; the piece was cut/constructed in Italy then shipped back; local shop does finishing touches/adjustments if needed. The finished piece is exquisite and fit is beyond my expectation for what I could get from MTM. Zero complaints. In fact, I'd love to immediately commission a dozen more but the 3k price tag still has my head spinning. I want to but simply can't--but even if I could, would it make sense to?

    I'm trying to understand: Where does $3000USD fall in terms of what you get?

    This thread is for buyers like me to get perspective. Is this Savile Row territory? Keep in mind, this was MTM and not a Bespoke piece. My gut feeling is that this is pricey for only a MTM sport coat. And that a full bespoke suit from a decent tailor could be had in HONG KONG (or Vietnam or whereever) for the price that I paid for a single MTM sport coat here. Or possibly could have purchased 2-3 MTM (or bespoke) sport coats for the price I paid here for only one and end with similar results (a well fitting & constructed jacket).
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2016
  2. tchoy

    tchoy Senior member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Sydney, Australia
    Welcome to forum!

    The price does sounds excessive but without knowing the specifics.

    There are lots of options for tailors in Japan if you are based there. You should be able to have a bespoke suit made for your mentioned budget used, Hong Kong tailors will be even less use the search function to do a search.

    THEPUNTIF New Member

    Jul 13, 2016
    I don't know but speculate the mark-up is from the Italian shop outsourced for construction and whatever cachè that brings for the local haberdasher. For my purposes, I don't care where or who makes the jacket, a Vietnamese or some Florentine... As long as the finished product is of adequate quality construction and fits exactly.

    I am Tokyo based and prefer local options, but this place is so expensive maybe I won't find any. Where on planet earth can you get good quality construction and exacting fit for a reasonable price? I'm willing to travel.

    And at this stage it isn't clear where, exactly. Hong Kong used to be mentioned allot but perhaps now getting 'up there' in price, there was a thread here claiming prices there are approaching savile row territory? I don't know... forum search resulted in unclear or excessively old information in regards to nearly everything, hence this thread.

    What's the current state of things in terms of prices? What's considered high for a MTM jacket and what's a good deal? Where is the current tailoring Mecca for the budget conscious?
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2016
  4. Mute

    Mute Senior member

    Dec 10, 2004
    Can't comment on prices in Tokyo, but in the U.S. $3000 is rather high for MTM.
  5. Astaroth

    Astaroth Senior member

    Sep 26, 2013
    At the end of the day you've already paid for it and are very happy with the result so stop thinking about it.

    There are MTM companies that charge much more than $3,000 for a sports jacket and there are bespoke companies that charge a lot less than $3,000 for a sports jacket.
  6. chippneckwear

    chippneckwear Well-Known Member

    Feb 2, 2015
    What is any thing worth? It varies from individual to individual. My definition of "good value" is : "If you like what you got for the money you spent you got a good deal." You are pleased with the jacket but obviously are not sure you need to spend what you paid . The only way you can answer your own question is to have a jacket made by someone who will charge less. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You can certainly have a jacket made ( MTM) that will cost significantly less than $3000. What made the jacket you think is so good please you? From what cloth was it made? If it was high quality cashmere you got a terrific price. If it is WBill Shetland, which is high quality Shetland, the price seems high. Was it the skill tailor who took your measurements and created the pattern from which the jacket was cut ? Was it the quality of the production - a jacket made by Oxxford will cost more than a jacket made by Samuelson? Are you very difficult to fit? You may be pleased with a jacket that is a step down from what you purchased. I suggest you do the following; Find out the source of the cloth used to make your jacket. Then have a jacket made by a tailor who charges less using the same quality cloth from the same mill. You will then have a basis of comparison from which you can decide if $3000 is what you need to pay to get what you like.
    There are no secret cloth sources. There are a few fine producers of cloth in the world and everyone operating at the quality end of the business knows who they are. In New York City you can have a MTM jacket made using the same cloth from the same mill and the prices can range from $550 to $2500. The jackets will be made from the same cloths but the jackets will not be the same. Only you can decide what you should purchase.

    Paul Winston
    Winston Tailors/ www.chippneckwear.com
    2121 687-0850
  7. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Dec 26, 2003
    are you happy?
    yes, the price seems high,
    if the service was good and you love the fit, then do not fret.

    do not attempt to take this jacket to a less expensive tailor in another contry.
    it will not be the same.
  8. GBR

    GBR Senior member

    Mar 15, 2006
    MTM is rarely good value but is an entre to the world of commissioning suits.

    If you are happy with the suits, the price was right, if not don't repeat such a futile excursion into this trade.
  9. bdavro23

    bdavro23 Senior member

    Mar 11, 2014
    The line between bespoke and MTM is very hazy at best. Bespoke doesnt necessarily mean better, but there are plenty of options for you less than $3,000. Unless of course you are talking about Vicuna and Chincilla fabric...

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