Motorcycles

[ShoeWho]

Hey guys, does anyone know the best filling material to make quilted parks / supported paddings for motorcycle jackets, to reduce shock and etc. ?

Any input will help out a lot

Are you asking about armour? I'm a bit confused by your post.

 

[lawyerdad]

Are you asking about armour? I'm a bit confused by your post.

"Padding" is probably closer than armour. Pretty sure he means like this:

 

[ShoeWho]

Quote:

I'm in South Florida now and no one wears a any protective gear. When they ride by I cringe for them. The only thing saving them is that all the roads are straight so the only skill needed down here is getting a bike rolling from 1st. If we could enact a law that allows you to ride without gear but it voids your health insurance, I would love that.

Isn't that kind of how the helmet law works in some states? Last time I was in Florida I was told that the helmet law had been repealed because there were too many uninsured people in hospital for years, requiring endless skin grafts, because they'd crashed wearing a helmet and a vest. So now you can ride without a helmet if you carry proof of insurance. That's what i was told, but the typical biker in the US is so poorly-informed that you never know whether to believe anything they say!

 

[ShoeWho]

What kind of jackets are you guys riding in?

I'm taking the MSF in about a month or so and have been kind of passively looking around at gear.

What are some of the things I should look for in order to judge the quality of a riding jacket?

In Europe the better stuff has a CE tag to show it meets some very basic safety standards. Maybe your gear has a Snell tag or something?

I could give you a long detailed answer about accidents and bike clothing but I'm not sure what the level of interest is in this topic. Most people are content to be blissfully ignorant until they're in a morgue or a wheelchair! After all, this is a fashion forum. All people care about is the pose value of the bike. If they have a couple of grand to spend on accessories it always goes on an Akrapovic pipe, not on preserving a full set of limbs.

 

[lawyerdad]

In Europe the better stuff has a CE tag to show it meets some very basic safety standards. Maybe your gear has a Snell tag or something?

I could give you a long detailed answer about accidents and bike clothing but I'm not sure what the level of interest is in this topic. Most people are content to be blissfully ignorant until they're in a morgue or a wheelchair! After all, this is a fashion forum. All people care about is the pose value of the bike. If they have a couple of grand to spend on accessories it always goes on an Akrapovic pipe, not on preserving a full set of limbs.

Projecting generalized straw man opinions onto everyone else is an interesting posting strategy. I wonder why nobody's thought of that approach before.

 

[ShoeWho]

I said 'most people', not everyone. And you know I'm right.

 

[lawyerdad]

I said 'most people', not everyone. And you know I'm right.

After all, this is a fashion forum. All people care about is the pose value of the bike. If they have a couple of grand to spend on accessories it always goes on an Akrapovic pipe, not on preserving a full set of limbs.

Sure, I defer to the expertise you've gained through your extensive familiarity with what's important to the folks who've been posting here for years.

 

[ShoeWho]

I have enough knowledge of motorcyclists and motorcycling to know that this forum cannot possibly be a hallowed place where only the skilled and knowledgeable gather. There's enough ignorance just in the last 5 pages of this thread to prove that!

 

[ShoeWho]

Self-driving is never going to be an option with motorcycles

Honda have already built a bike which can stand up on its own, so self-driving bikes can't be far away. The only part they haven't made yet is the cornering algorithm - I bet they can manage that. A self-driving cabin motorcycle like the BMW C1 or the Peraves Monotracer could be a great urban transport solution in jurisdictions which allow filtering.



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[brokencycle]

The Triumph Bobber is awesome looking. I don't think I'm cool enough to buy one.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I could give you a long detailed answer about accidents and bike clothing but I'm not sure what the level of interest is in this topic. Most people are content to be blissfully ignorant until they're in a morgue or a wheelchair! After all, this is a fashion forum. All people care about is the pose value of the bike. If they have a couple of grand to spend on accessories it always goes on an Akrapovic pipe, not on preserving a full set of limbs.

you're right. Most of our discussions have been about which designer flip flops look best while riding

I have enough knowledge of motorcyclists and motorcycling to know that this forum cannot possibly be a hallowed place where only the skilled and knowledgeable gather. There's enough ignorance just in the last 5 pages of this thread to prove that!

Any examples of the aforementioned ignorance that you would like to share with us?

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

2017 MV Agusta Brutale 1000. I find it curious how MV has neglected upgrading/replacing the inline-4 1090 Brutale but are focusing on the triples (675, 800 and now 1000)

 

[ShoeWho]

Any examples of the aforementioned ignorance that you would like to share with us?

This stands out: "Most padding is for the most part ornamental and doesn't offer any real protection. That D3o stuff might be an option tho. I know it can be bought in preshaped armour or in sheets." It would be hilarious if it wasn't about something which can prevent you from being crippled.

 

[gnatty8]

The Triumph Bobber is awesome looking. I don't think I'm cool enough to buy one.

I HATE HATE HATE the seat though. They made a great looking bike, fantastic details, and then the seat is like this dumb looking, uh, ledge just hanging off the spine. Had they planted a solo seat or something onto the fender to hide the rear spring, I would have loved this bike. Maybe an after-market solution, but that seat was pure fail.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

This stands out: "Most padding is for the most part ornamental and doesn't offer any real protection. That D3o stuff might be an option tho. I know it can be bought in preshaped armour or in sheets." It would be hilarious if it wasn't about something which can prevent you from being crippled.

"Padding" for the most part IS ornamental. Presently I have a 1 piece suit, a Dainese Santa Monica jacket and the original Dainese Stripes jacket, all of which have hard armour. While hard armour used to be the standard more and more manufacturers have turned to "soft" armour such as D30, SAS-TEC, Forcefield etc. because they are thinner and more comfortable yet still are CE rated (most are level 1 but a few are level 2). It can purchased preshaped (shoulder, elbow/forearm, spine protector, chest pad, etc) or purchased in sheets of varying thickness to be used in custom applications.

The person who posed the question was not a regular to this forum and I assumed was not a rider. They pop in from time to time. It was also my assumption that the poster was interested in manufacturing fashion motorcycle-like jackets. I was merely directing the poster down a path which would inevitably lead to the discovery that "padding" isn't enough for a real motorcycle jacket.

What I find hilarious is that the Resident Gear Nazi (moi) is being singled out by ShoeWho for passing on bad gear advice. Now that's rich!